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Old 01-28-2014, 10:16 PM
Ceelow Ceelow is offline
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Default Low Level Enchanter: Animation vs. Charm

Any experienced enchanters like to shed some light on low level charming vs. their anmiations?Is there any diminish return for using charm at such a low level (12) vs. the level 12 animation?

I know you can charm mob #1, kill mob #2 with charmed mob #1 and then, invis and kill your charmed pet, but after thats all said and done i'm OOM basically.

Do things pick up after you get clarity?

Just curious, thanks )
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Old 01-28-2014, 10:28 PM
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Things pick up with charming after 16 and breeze. I charmed until 39, then at 39 I found I could easily solo with the animation because of his improved regen (pet will almost outregen blue con mob dps at 39 after it is slowed. It was a joke after 44 with Shiftless Deeds). At that point, it was a toss-up for me. The animation was slow, steady, easy exp for when I didn't want to pay attention, but if I really wanted to work I could charm and it would be faster.
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Old 01-28-2014, 10:47 PM
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Any experienced enchanters like to shed some light on low level charming vs. their anmiations?Is there any diminish return for using charm at such a low level (12) vs. the level 12 animation?

I know you can charm mob #1, kill mob #2 with charmed mob #1 and then, invis and kill your charmed pet, but after thats all said and done i'm OOM basically.

Do things pick up after you get clarity?

Just curious, thanks )
I charmed from 12 onward and found 12-16 pretty difficult. I did it on the red server so the amount of time needed to do it was really small but I'm not sure I would do it again.

From 16 onwards it makes sense and is incredibly easy with breeze but I would have to say an animation almost makes more sense. Couple that with root jousting (letting your pet tank, run in for a quick swing of the wep and duck out) and you'll level pretty quickly to 16.
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Old 01-28-2014, 11:11 PM
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Any experienced enchanters like to shed some light on low level charming vs. their anmiations?Is there any diminish return for using charm at such a low level (12) vs. the level 12 animation?

I know you can charm mob #1, kill mob #2 with charmed mob #1 and then, invis and kill your charmed pet, but after thats all said and done i'm OOM basically.

Do things pick up after you get clarity?

Just curious, thanks )
Don't let charmed pet kill mob #2 and take 50% xp! When both are low on health, root mob #2. Back mob #1 away, sit it down and back up to max casting range. Use Taper Enchantment to break charm for better mana efficiency. Nuke mob #1, then mob #2. Get 100% xp for both.
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Old 01-28-2014, 11:39 PM
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So basically use animation til 16+breeze? Anymore info on this would be great . Btw is gamtexttriggers allowable on p99? (Not to get off topic)
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Old 01-29-2014, 12:07 AM
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Any experienced enchanters like to shed some light on low level charming vs. their anmiations?Is there any diminish return for using charm at such a low level (12) vs. the level 12 animation?

I know you can charm mob #1, kill mob #2 with charmed mob #1 and then, invis and kill your charmed pet, but after thats all said and done i'm OOM basically.

Do things pick up after you get clarity?

Just curious, thanks )
the thing about charm is that mobs are quite weak at that level. At L60 you can charm a L50 krup with 8000 HP and 100 dps vs an animation with 2000HP and 30 DPS. The difference is not nearly as stark at lower levels.
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Old 01-29-2014, 04:28 AM
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I was having the same problem at your level with mana, especially if a charm broke and I had to get control back.

Level 19 now though and it's getting better as I'm using the same spells as I was at 12. Also use the level 4 Mesmerise for everything. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] It's got a great mem blur component.
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Old 01-29-2014, 07:51 AM
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yea its pretty rough at low levels, needing at least 50% mana to kill a target and be 'safe', cant wait to get a few more levels
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Old 01-29-2014, 08:12 AM
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So basically use animation til 16+breeze? Anymore info on this would be great . Btw is gamtexttriggers allowable on p99? (Not to get off topic)
Yes it is. Atleast it was a 2 years ago when I asked Rogean directly. It should still be today.

And yea this is why a large chunk of those who seek low level PLs are enchanters. To get past the first 16-20 levels into a place where soloing is a lot easier.
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Old 01-29-2014, 08:14 AM
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ill take a PL to 20 :-D
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