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08-02-2010, 07:59 AM
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Issues with Skeleton Models
I went to Everfrost to try and find some of the missing mobs from the newbie area, and noticed that the Lich of Miragul was on track. I'll discuss that in another thread, but for the purposes of this thread, he's appearing as a human with 5 different robes on, which I believe is what occurs when the game tries to call a model that isn't global. I wasn't able to find screenshots of the Lich of Miragul before the graphics were changed, but there were three shades of old model skeleton, and I believe he was black.
[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] The white model is what was just implemented. The black model is still using the luclin graphics. I went to rathe mountains and camped the ruins until I got the black giant skeleton. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] The third skeleton model had a red hue to it. Illusion drybone would correctly call the model way way back in the day. However, at some point, it only bugged and only called the plain white skeleton model and was never fixed. This is the case here, I had Quitis use both Illusion: Skeleton and Illusion: Drybone to demonstrate. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] The necromancer pets also followed a progression in color. The pets became red at 39, with Malignant Dead, until the level 49 pet Invoke Death, where they became black. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Screenshot of the level 39 red skeleton pet (proper Drybone model. Oasis drybones were plain white, but fear portal drybones were this shade) Hope this helps! | ||
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Last edited by mmiles8; 08-02-2010 at 08:05 AM..
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08-02-2010, 11:15 AM
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Lich of Miragul - Fixed.
He should be white. This is a shot of me and some friends :P [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] "a giant skeleton" - the model was left dark in Luclin graphics because we haven't figured out how to get the dark boned skeleton graphics. dry bones skeleton - I remember them being white [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Can I see some screenshots of the different skeleton colors? White and Brownish Red are all I remember I guess. | ||
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08-02-2010, 11:28 AM
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Ah ha. Looks like his pet was what was a different color, that explains it.
Looks like I was wrong about the third shade. I remembered dark bones being darker. Modern models having multiple shades must have thrown me off. Couldn't find an old screenshot of the dark Giant Skeleton in Rathe (He's a quest mob, for Caduceus of Sacrament, This link from 2000 refers to him being darker, only dark one in zone), but I did find this screenshot of the a darkbone skeleton from this page: [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] But yeah the oasis drybones were white. I could be wrong about the Fear portal darkbones too. Nice name there Nopie :P Edit: Yep, he was just red. My mistake. | ||
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Last edited by mmiles8; 08-02-2010 at 11:47 AM..
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08-02-2010, 11:33 AM
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I can't find any screenshots but I vaguely remember there being a dark skeleton that appeared to have flayed skin as its texture. Maybe this is what mmiles8 meant but black?
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08-02-2010, 11:47 AM
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BTW, the brownish skeleton textures can be found in global_chr. I have no idea how to properly reference them though.
If anyone is curious to try and fix them: skech0101.bmp skech0102.bmp skech0103.bmp skech0104.bmp skech0105.bmp skefa0101.bmp skeft0101.bmp skeft0102.bmp skehe0101.bmp skehn0101.bmp skehn0102.bmp skelg0101.bmp skeua0101.bmp | ||
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08-02-2010, 12:35 PM
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08-02-2010, 01:26 PM
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08-02-2010, 01:38 PM
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Thanks for the help. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] | |||
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08-02-2010, 04:10 PM
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We moved/removed some files from loading in Resources/GlobalLoad.txt to begin with. Then, I saw that the luclin models for skeletons and wolves (the mesh for them) get loaded from global6_chr. I removed that entirely (the only textures were the luclin elementals in there, so it's fine to remove.) and the classic skeleton mesh loaded. I then moved gequip5 down the list for loading, which told it "load the luclin textures later.", which causes it to not apply them, as it loads the classic skeleton textures beforehand. The EQ client never loads textures on top of each other. Instead, it loads them once for one model. In this case it loaded the classic mesh and the classic textures, thus resulting in a classic model loading. The growthplane line is somehow required for the wolves to animate. There are no animations unless that line is there, dunno why, but it requires it. Possibly because growthplane had classic wolves in it, and that's where they stored the animation files. That's the long explanation. The reason why dark-bone skeletons couldn't be referenced is because the client somehow has the texture list either: In a file, or hardcoded into the client. Since the luclin skeleton has one texture, which is 0, the dark-boned skeleton can't be used. It probably is referenced in the s3d but it's a client limitation.
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