Starting to question the +/- 8 level dynamic

mimixownzall · #1 10-05-2011, 04:56 AM

What's the point? Really?

I get attacked by someone who is 8 levels above me. I spend my entire mana bar and do maybe 30 dmg to them the entire time. I'm easily rooted due to level difference. I'm easily nuked due to level difference. Melee hits are always really high due to level difference.

You guys didn't want it to be SZ rules due to griefing of low levels who had no chance to fight back. Well, it is happening anyways. You got your band of self proclaimed Bballing experts who run around running from blues and higher but feed on the light blues and think they're fucking pros.

I was all for it at first, calling people who wanted the +/- 4 levels pussies. But, after having experienced the 8 level dynamic, I have to say I am starting to lean towards the +/- 4 levels.

Yes, on SZ you had high levels killing you and, no, you didn't stand much of a chance of killing them, or defending yourself with any success. But, at least you didn't have to worry about losing exp and money to these people either. They had to be within 5 levels to lose exp or get coined.

Syriusly · #2 10-05-2011, 05:03 AM

I think the answer is in your post, keep +/-8 but lose exp and coin only to +/-4. Although I'm happy with it how it is.

Cwall · #3 10-05-2011, 05:07 AM

confirmed mad that he can't kill a shaman with his mage when the shaman has 60% health 60% mana

also mad he can't kill a shaman with 0 mana 20% health with his shaman

also those high melee hits are from my gatorsmash maul bro

Softcore PK · #4 10-05-2011, 05:08 AM

What level are you, OP?

Kungen · #5 10-05-2011, 05:18 AM

That's life. Sometimes you'll have an advantage and sometimes you won't. That's what makes EQ fun and challenging.

mimixownzall · #6 10-05-2011, 05:26 AM

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confirmed mad that he can't kill a shaman with his mage when the shaman has 60% health 60% mana

also mad he can't kill a shaman with 0 mana 20% health with his shaman

also those high melee hits are from my gatorsmash maul bro

You further illustrate my point. Yes you had more like 16% hps. I hit you with how many nukes? How much dmg did they do? 10dmg maybe? And you never missed with your maul and hit me for almost max every time. The level difference is huge.

I chose to stop and fight someone red (turns out to be 8 levels higher than me) while you run from blues and higher and only seek out light blues (thus why you turned and chased me). My shaman was close and I could have brought him over and healed my mage, but I wanted to test how I could do against someone who out-matched me in gear and levels. What do you do? Start talking shit like some adolescent who just had their pubes grow in and thinks he's a man.

I was 29 and he was 37. Pretty hard man. Keep up that stellar job of killing light blues. I will be expecting some screens too. Please don't disappoint.

Softcore PK · #7 10-05-2011, 05:29 AM

This is very good. I'm really not trying to be mean, but without people complaining about being PK'd it just wouldn't be EQ for me..

Bockscar · #8 10-05-2011, 05:29 AM

The level range ensures that people are almost always in range to other players doing the same content. If you're fighting over the rights to some camp or dungeon, it's very unlikely that someone more than 8 levels higher or lower will be trying to claim the same spot. With a 4-level range, that'll happen all the time. Maybe +/- 4 might be decent for the first twenty levels, but after that, it's more trouble than it's worth. The level range is there to prevent PvP only in situations where it serves absolutely no purpose, like a level 50 preventing anyone from leveling in Crushbone.

Cwall · #9 10-05-2011, 05:36 AM

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You further illustrate my point. Yes you had more like 16% hps. I hit you with how many nukes? How much dmg did they do? 10dmg maybe? And you never missed with your maul and hit me for almost max every time. The level difference is huge.

I chose to stop and fight someone red (turns out to be 8 levels higher than me) while you run from blues and higher and only seek out light blues (thus why you turned and chased me). My shaman was close and I could have brought him over and healed my mage, but I wanted to test how I could do against someone who out-matched me in gear and levels. What do you do? Start talking shit like some adolescent who just had their pubes grow in and thinks he's a man.

I was 29 and he was 37. Pretty hard man. Keep up that stellar job of killing light blues. I will be expecting some screens too. Please don't disappoint.

rofl weren't you the one talking shit in ooc afterward for "almost raping" me?

your mage tried nuking me like 5 times and none of them were whole resists, some were low around 10 damage, others were around 40, and i have 45 fire resist

you could have gated but you got greedy and wanted to kill me because i was already at 60% when the fight started

the only nuke your shaman casted on me hit for 40, which is what, half damage?

i only hit your shaman for max one time(75), 2 of the hits were about 30, and then 3 or so hits were 60.

mimixownzall · #10 10-05-2011, 06:05 AM

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rofl weren't you the one talking shit in ooc afterward for "almost raping" me?

your mage tried nuking me like 5 times and none of them were whole resists, some were low around 10 damage, others were around 40, and i have 45 fire resist

you could have gated but you got greedy and wanted to kill me because i was already at 60% when the fight started

the only nuke your shaman casted on me hit for 40, which is what, half damage?

i only hit your shaman for max one time(75), 2 of the hits were about 30, and then 3 or so hits were 60.

No, I turned around and saw you were going to attack me. I saw you weren't full hps so I thought I might have a chance if you were only 3 levels above me. I did not know at that time you were a light blue predator. Haha, I got greedy? No. Some people like to face a good challenge. I haven't pvp'd in EQ since 2003 or 04 and am still trying to get my head around it.

You knew weren't in any real danger (though I got you down a lot further than I thought I would); if you had, you would have run. Even with 60% hps I bet you still had more hps than I did - prolly by 200hps.

Like I said, grats on your light blue kills.