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Old 06-23-2015, 06:42 PM
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Just curious as to what the overall opinions and thoughts of Leaderboards are.

On one hand, I don't mind them and think it's a great way to track stats. On the other hand, I don't care for what they promote at all and have never taken them seriously. Every game I've ever played with leaderboards suffered from it being a flawed system due to boosting or exploiting. Here it promotes bind/corpse camping/griefing for leaderboard ranks.

I just started playing here again recently and watched an Enchanter die in PvP to a PK twink and then on his CR/LNS he was cc'd 3x straight by the same twink. Also died an xp death once. Dude didn't ragequit or whine or anything, just sucks he wasted that much time from being griefed.

Come to find out the PK was "atop the pvp leaderboards". I just find these things to be counter productive to a server more than anything. Clearly the SK twink wants an easy playing field and rightfully so, the game allows for that, but at the same time, how hard is it to just kill your targets and then carry on. Why make it a point to be a douche nozzle. Surely this sort of thing happens without leaderboards, but is it commonplace now for this type of behavior with it being in place?
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Old 06-23-2015, 06:43 PM
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leaderboards are dumb to take seriously considering how imbalanced classes are and it doesn't give credit for support classes

would love just a pvp kill and /ooc monitor that doesn't track stats
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Old 06-23-2015, 08:17 PM
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leaderboards are dumb to take seriously considering how imbalanced classes are and it doesn't give credit for support classes

would love just a pvp kill and /ooc monitor that doesn't track stats
vztz had nice leaderboard that gave points to support classes in group
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Old 06-23-2015, 08:33 PM
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Here is a novel idea:

Naked toons should be immune from all PVP with three exceptions.
1. If the naked toon attacks anyone, global immunity is lost.
2. There is no immunity against the person that killed you, absent LnS.
3. There is no immunity against the guild that killed you, absent force lns, if it involves force on force pvp as defined by the rules.

I'm sick and tired of seeing opportune fucks griefing players on cr's so they can rack up some easy kills on the leader board. It's a douche nozzle thing to do and it happens way too much on this box.

An alternative is to increase the timer on full kill points after death. But I think that's a worse alternative a lot of time because recently killed players are still a threat and those points should count sometimes.

At least the first creates a semi bright line rule for Gms to ban more people with assbergers.
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Old 06-23-2015, 06:45 PM
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crushbone leaderboards are dumb. only people who care about them are twinks.
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Old 06-23-2015, 06:47 PM
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Old 06-23-2015, 06:48 PM
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leaderboard doesn't mean much

i was top 100 on shm

top 50 on wiz

and i am fukin terrible at this game

also, majority of top 100 are fungi twinks


kill/death tracker and ooc monitor ftw

point system stupid

support classes get the big shaft
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Old 06-23-2015, 06:52 PM
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First of all, I love the insult "douche nozzle" it just rolls right off the tongue.

I personally find the leaderboards to be a useful tool in determining a person's history, habits, gear level, and gauging the likelihood that said person will attack me.

There are, however, ways to exploit the leaderboards. They are also un-bracketed, which allows a twink preying on lowbies to out rank some of the best level 60 PvPers.

All things considered, I take rankings and ratios with a grain of salt, these can fluctuate wildly for the better or worse in a matter of days with just a bit of good/bad luck.
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Old 06-23-2015, 10:48 PM
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I personally find the leaderboards to be a useful tool in determining a person's history, habits, gear level, and gauging the likelihood that said person will attack me.
And that's all there is to say about it.

Like Colgate said, they don't take into account support classes participation.

What Pvp means is different for everyone. For some it's psychopatic behavior, killing everyone you encounter. As far as I am concerned, what makes EQ pvp interesting is that you can control content i.e. zones. So the leaderboard means nothing to me, except what's quoted above.
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Old 06-23-2015, 06:55 PM
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Leaderboards are no indication of player skill. I have been in the top 20 on it for fucks sake lol
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