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Originally Posted by JurisDictum
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Most normal people don't engage in politics. Politics is when you form a group of people to pressure politicians to change or not change something. While political discussion has its place, its more of a discussion than a political act.
Most people here are caught in the trap of using their consumer choices to form an identity. Which is the heart of support for people like Joe Biden and Donald Trump. Their base is made up of those that have bought into two opposing lifestyles choices; they picked one of the two mainstream brands.
Owning the libs is a consumer choice. The focus is on what kinds of podcasts, movies, music the person chooses to consume. Being a normal democrat shitlib is about how much you enjoy crappy multicultural content of Netflix and eating at wholefoods (the founder was a libertarian -- so take that).
Most people have very similar views to their parents. The highest predictor of what your political persuasion is what your parent's politics were. When you try to engage in a discussion about their pro-establishment or otherwise fetal political beliefs, they defend it as if you are attacking them -- their identity.
Trump never produced any good evidence of election fraud. In Arizona, they hired a full team of stop the steal fanatics to find how Trump really won. The problem is he didn't. So were left with the usual: Unverified accounts of suspicious activity and vague handwavy gesters toward how suspicious it all looks from the outside.
But you can't get them to see the light. Trump said it was stolen. Being a Trump supporter is a (sometimes crucial) part of their identify. If you attack Trump, even when he is obviously wrong about something, you are attacking their very sense of themselves.
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Trump’s appeal, and why he won, was because he wasn’t a typical politician. He was crude, he was rude, he was just a blunt non-pandering kind of guy
America was (still is) sick of PC culture, and Trump was counter-culture
That’s what made him appeal to me. Not so tribal or blind to think he’s beyond reproach or incapable of making a mistake. No one is