Thread: Game Mechanics: Melee Dmg
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Old 06-05-2015, 03:34 PM
Raev Raev is offline
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Nirgon, I don't get it. I thought you were about classic above all else, but it seems like you want to turn the bug forums into RNF. The OP is saying that melee hit rates and attack damage are way too high, and while I don't have classic PVP logs I'm inclined to agree with him.

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Originally Posted by Safehouse
I know a lot of casters who got caught medding and died from one double backstab.
While medding = while sitting = hit for max every time and never miss. We can agree that this should be fixed.

Code:
zonko@vanderboom:/stuff/projects/eq/logs/oldlogs12$ grep "hits YOU" 
eqlog_Loraen_project1999.txt | grep -v "magical skin" | 
grep -v "air elemental" | grep -v "willowisp" | wc -l
384
zonko@vanderboom:/stuff/projects/eq/logs/oldlogs12$ grep "tries to hit YOU" 
eqlog_Loraen_project1999.txt | grep -v "magical skin" | 
grep -v "air elemental" | grep -v "willowisp" | wc -l
192
zonko@vanderboom:/stuff/projects/eq/logs/oldlogs12$ grep "hits YOU" 
eqlog_Loraen_project1999.txt | grep "A helot spectre" | wc -l
29
zonko@vanderboom:/stuff/projects/eq/logs/oldlogs12$ grep "hits YOU" 
eqlog_Loraen_project1999.txt | grep "A helot spectre" | grep 148 | wc -l
4
So NPCs (mostly Hate/Sebilis/HS South+East, although there are a few low levels in there) hit Loraen roughly 70% of the time, and (very small sample size) my L52 pet hit me for max 15% of the time (it's probably more like 25%).

I believe the wiki gets their AC numbers from ShowEQ. If so, take look at this:
  • Krup Ghoul Knight: 400AC
  • Emperor Chottal: 511AC
  • Loraen: 640AC (unbuffed)
  • Sakuragi: 940AC (unbuffed)
  • King Tormax: 1100AC
  • Sakuragi in Velious: 1300AC

In other words, the main difference between a L60 NPC and a L60 PC should be HP, not AC or hit/miss rates. Meanwhile, melee here hit like 85% of the time and for max like 50% of the time. I don't pretend to be a PVP expert, but everything I know about EQ's combat mechanics suggests that those percentages are way too high.
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