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Originally Posted by bcbrown
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DSM, could you address Troxx's scenario on the previous page? I'd like to see that before I continue nitpicking your calculations.
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Sure. Unfortunately Troxx has excluded a number of variables, which is why he thinks he is correct when he is not. The mic drop was premature sadly.
Using Troxx's example, the Mob has 4500 HP and deals 10 DPS slowed. We are a level 58 Shaman that has Regrowth on, and has hasted their pet. Mana costs for self Regrowth and Pet Haste are ignored for this test, since both Shamans will do it. This means the reduction in mana per tick is the same for both the Iksar Shaman and the Ogre Shaman.
I did make a few minor errors in my calculations in the previous post, but they end up working out better for JBB anyway. A Canni Dancing Ogre Shaman is getting 32 mana per tick. This is because you get 6 + 15 = 21 HP from sitting + Regrowth on the tick, and 21 from meditate. After cannibalizing this equates to 32 mana per tick. A Canni Dancing Iksar Shaman is getting 16 + 15 = 31 HP from sitting + Regrowth on the tick, and 21 from meditate. This equates to 37 mana per tick.
JBB (32.8 DPS) + Hasted Pet (17 DPS) + Blight, Hammer of the Scourge (2.2 DPS from half duration of procced Dot and initial DD) = 53 DPS. A JBB Shaman would kill a mob with 4500 HP in 85 seconds. You would get 14 ticks of standing HP regen + Regrowth, so you would reduce incoming damage by (15 + 3) X 14 = 252. You get 14 mana from the standing mana regen. This means the JBB Shaman spent a Total of 175 (Slow) + ((850 damage taken - 252 damage reduced) / 2) - 14 Mana = 460 mana spent. A canni dancing Ogre is getting 32 mana per tick. That means it takes 86 seconds to recover out of combat. Time per mob = 85 + 86 = 171 seconds including recovery time after the fight.
A DoT Shaman using 2x EBolts, Hasted + Regen Pet, 1x Slow and 1x Paralzying Earth would kill the mob in 115 seconds. This is because the Pet would be fighting the entire time. 2x Ebolts would do 2556 damage in 112 seconds including cast time, and it takes 115 seconds for the pet to do the remainder damage at 17 DPS. Since the pet and DoT's are going simultaneously and this includes DoT cast time, this is correct. The mana spent on this would be 320 x 2 (EBolt) + 175 (Slow) + 100 (Paralzying Earth) = 915 from spell costs. A canni dancing Shaman would not be able to canni dance during spell casting in combat. This means you are also losing 4 ticks of meditate (84 mana and 24 sitting HP), for an extra 96 mana worth of cost. This means you spend 1011 mana per fight. You are casting Regen on your pet while a JBB Shaman is not, which means you are spending 1300 mana per hour, including the meditation tick loss. This equates to -2.2 mana per tick. A canni dancing Iksar that is Regening their pet is therefore getting 34.8 mana per tick. Time per mob = 174 seconds including recovery time after the fight.
I am specifically using Paralzying Earth instead of Root on the DoTTing Shaman because Troxx cannot simply assume the pet will always have agro after a low level root, which only lasts 48 seconds and can break early. Just using these calculations alone, the JBB Shaman is 3 seconds faster per encounter. Realistically this number is higher, because the DoTTing shaman in this scenario is assumed to never get a root break, spell resist, never get hit by the mob at all, and never miss a canni dance in combat outside of casting. Obviously this is unrealistic in practice. This is why JBB is better all the way until level 60. You do less work and cast less spells for the same base kill speed. This simplified playstyle reduces the RnG chances that your XP session will be interrupted by bad luck.