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Originally Posted by Fammaden
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The only reason anyone likes EQ PvP is for griefing. These need-new-red spammers will deny that til they're blue in the face and make up a million false justifications for why a PvP server is somehow "better".
But the real reason they like it is they want a built in mechanic for pissing off other players and starting drama in ooc with the lowest effort possible. That's it, that's the only reason they want a restart so bad. For fresh victims. They know it will end up dead again in three months and would waste all of the dev and staff's time and they don't give a fuck.
In reality, the real most effective and most sustainable form of griefing other players is by taking all of a bluebie's raid loots. Seal Team owned everyone harder than any red player could ever dream of, but that requires organization, interpersonal skills, intelligence, and patience.....qualities every red player severely lacks.
So instead they take the lowest common denominator approach and just spam the forums with "can I has killz other player pls rogon, lolz". Idiots.
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You clearly don't know shit and probably never fought another player in your life. I'd say the
VAST majority of
Red players are
not griefers. The vast majority of Rallos Zek players back in the day were not griefers and same holds true for Sullon Zek. Most people like PVP servers because they simply like to keep their
options open. Fighting against non-AI monsters that may actually think for themselves and outwit you is also a big appeal to people that enjoy that extra challenge. All of a sudden, a significant amount of gear built into the game becomes relevant and useful. Different strategies become viable, certain clickies become more valuable. Whoever thought "PVP was just an afterthought" clearly never paid attention to much of the itemization in the game where you have certain gear that was obviously made for PVP.
Healthy PVP servers
create their own content. Not only do they have the same exact npc targets as bluebie servers, but they also have guild wars and PVP to contend with on a daily basis, thus ensuring endless content. The same can't be said for bluebie servers.
Let me give you some examples:
Some dude is occupying a high value camp before "lists" were a thing. Let's say Manastone camp for arguments sake. Something that will eventually be gone forever. This dude will apparently be camping this thing forever as well cause he never leaves and passes off the camp to his fellow guild members or better yet the character is just played in shifts by different people. When asked to share the camp, he just laughs or does 100 other things to piss you off or ignores you entirely. Now, what is your solution to this classic poopsocker situation? On PVP at least you have the option to kill this mofo.
This scenario could be repeated 100 times in various ways. Some dude is an asshole but not breaking any rules, what is your recourse on blue?
NOTHING! You sit there and take it like the little bluebie you are.
Red players like having the option to put these assholes in their place.
Two guilds line up at the "start line"... LOL. For a raid target, certain idiotic rules are in place determining what spells/abilities can be used to obtain "FTE" because lets just take all strategic thought process out of the equation. Any
presumed rule breaking will be reported with immediate effect. Don't sit there and honestly tell me that you've found yourself in this ridiculous raid situation and
haven't thought:
"it would be nice to just kill all these fuckers". Well,
Red players do exactly that.
Bluebie servers literally have PAGES & PAGES of nonsensical rules that you as the blue player are supposed to know and study (fun game huh?). Ignorance is not an excuse and won't save you from the banhammer! There are 31 FAQ that the staff felt the need to outline! With rules of engagement further expanded in Green rules! lmao. With various amendments made like it's a law book.
https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=189856
*sigh*... I have not read through it all, and won't. Yet I can still, without a doubt, tell you that all of these silly problems are solved with
PVP.