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Originally Posted by Albane
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This servers camp rules are bullshit and force players to solo single camps instead of grouping to take multiple camps. It makes the game much less fun and puts a lot of classes out of luck for finding groups.
A group of 6 should be allowed to claim 3 camps in a dungeon as long as they keep the spawns cleared.
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They are.
Look it's easy to take this stuff out of context in the forums, but let's look at a practical example: CE (Crypt/Emperor) in Sebilis. Not a "top" camp anymore with Velious, but still it can provide JBBs, Heiro Cloaks, a ton of lesser items, and even potentially a copy of Torpor. In other words, it's still a very popular camp, and it has caused plenty of "camp fights" over the years.
Because of the server rules about line of sight, there are essentially 7 camps at CE: four rooms in Crypt plus the cube outside, plus Emperor and Blood in the room in front of him.
Technically, if a soloer goes in at 4AM when no one is there, they can claim (and prevent groups from doing)
one camp, eg. Heiro Cloak. Is it annoying to groups wanting to do CE? Yes. Is it easy to do, and hold? No, because you have to get the camp when no group is there, and if you screw up even once not only does the group get to take your camp ... you now have to try and talk that group into rezzing you
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And if the group gets there first, they can absolutely keep all seven camps. In a practical sense, yes maybe someone could show up and say "I want a camp, you can't have all seven", and the group could give them the worst camp (eg. cube or blood). Pretty soon they'll get bored of soloing a crappy camp and go away.
So ... it seems to me that, even in that case ... which seems like kind of an extreme example (seven separate camps, with soloers actively trying to take them) groups have no problem with soloers.