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Originally Posted by Hasbinbad
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While I agree that the offenses are somewhat similar, there are two VERY important distinctions between the two situations.
One one hand you have Reiker. Reiker is a jackass. A very smart, very shrewd jackass. Reiker was a player on p1999 when he cheated. Reiker was caught and banned, and then unbanned due to the "letting the terrorists win" actions when they unbanned everyone.
Reiker was found to be cheating on MUCH less evidence that we have provided and banned immediately.
On the other hand, you have Tibador. Tibador is a GM. A very sloppy, very uncoordinated GM. Tibador was a GM when he cheated. Tibador was caught and admitted wrongdoing, but so far nothing has been done.
On the other hand, you have Allizia. Allizia is the guildleader of the guild which the GM's are so concerned about being fair with. Allizia was a guildleader when he cheated. Allizia was caught and admitted wrongdoing, but so far nothing has been done.
Tibador and Allizia are in positions of power. People in positions of power who abuse this power to break rules should be punished in a harsher way that normal people who break rules. YET NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE. Reiker was a player. HE WAS BANNED INSTANTLY.
You really don't see the issue here?
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alright, the only part of this i have an issue with is this:
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A very sloppy, very uncoordinated GM.
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I guess this isn't exactly an "attack" at someone, but you knew what was happening and when was meant when you said it, and i can't just sit back and watch someone bitch and complain about the guild leader.
I hate to bring this up, but Did you guys give back the loot for the first naggy kill when you had the hacked characters with you? I dont think you did, may be wrong though. I'm pretty positive we would give the loot back from the kills where we had any issues with, Phinny and Vox included(although don't let me speak for the guild...), seems close to the same situation, but with different technicalities obviously.
And Vox is supposed to be 6pm central tonight, So idk if they killed it, but i'll have to get on and see.
About the Reiker and Tib/Allizia thing, Yes, IMHO its the same situation. Yes he was cheating. Yes, Tib and Allizia Exploit pulled. Big fucking whoop. Does that mean that any encounter with reiker or group with reiker should have experience/loot gained revoked? No. Is the loot for phinny going to get revoked? most likely no.
Both situations were wrong, and all that i'm saying is that people keep dragging both situations up because its one of the few provable greivances we have with each other. We both know other things happened, just don't *always* have proof.
hehe Im just saying lets stop our fighting and complaining bullshit.
PS: go read Hasbinbads post on the idea for spawns, looks pretty tight. His idea (with my obvious modifications hehe) is my Number one, and Bubbles idea is my Number 2. Fun stuff tbh = D