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Originally Posted by maverixdamighty
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i'm in a guild that hasn't even been around a year, so not sure why that is addressed at me. i used to be in divinity and when people in the guild complained about it i said the same stuff i said now. if you want the mobs have to put in the time, get organized, and get them not complain to devs and ask for handouts.
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Dear God, you are an idiot.
Nobody is asking for handouts nor are these guilds incapable of killing a target because of a lack of organization. We've had raid leaders from FoH in Div, mav. You know full well that we're not exactly noobs. This applies to a good chunk of the raiding population that isn't TMO/FE. The only reason they can't get mobs is because of the nonsensical time sink that's required.
Just to be a "casual" raider on here requires significantly more time than it did on live. To be able to kill VS requires that you camp alts there, fully buffed, and have enough people in your guild to be able to respond at any time of the day. I'm sure it's hard killing trakonan with >60 when the roster includes ~200. And after years of doing that it also becomes much easier to buy trackers, CoTH bots, and whatever else you need to maintain that edge. That's going to be something that's a huge hindrance/cockblock come velious and won't ever be addressed.
It gets to a point where you become deflated and say, "Fuck it. Why bother?" It isn't because these guilds and people are incapable of killing the mob under classic rules and mechanics -- remember most of us have without putting in anywhere near the same amount of time you're putting in -- but rules that specifically favor these massive zerg forces.
After tracking and watching trak/sev/tal and even gore die within minutes of a spawn purely because that other guild has much higher numbers and rules that require it, you stop tracking for good and say, "Fuck it." Then when an even larger variance is added (even if by accident) you have to wonder just what the hell they're thinking...