[heartbrand]

The reason there is no competition will ultimately always be the competition themselves. Holocaust was too elitist and failed to recruit a great many people who were considered "bad" or that they had prior grudges with from old boxes. Yes the holo ban blah blah hurt but they came back and won pvp the day after suspension lifted. They lost all of uprising because of the members they had like that dominos necro who would train specters on people 24/7 or slathar who trained non stop etc etc. founding fathers failed because they didn't want to merge with holocaust because of prior box grievances. So they couldn't win anything and lost the members who wanted pve progression to nihilum. Other guilds like brotherhood etc never wanted to merge trying to do it all on their own and of course they failed as well as members got sick of waiting. Red dawn same shit everyone hating each other too many chiefs etc etc. just face it dudes the opposition here is awful and nothing is going to change that. You need new players and fixes with transfers will make that happen.