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Originally Posted by TotallyLegit [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You guys just don't get it.

The title of this thread is "Disappointed Cleric" and it was presented with no hate or malice.

Elixa and his wife have been playing on this server for 2.5 years hanging out, doing their thing, and then one day...

BOOM Ragefire is up and people are available and today looks like the day he is finally going to get his clicky rez! So they are, IN Sol B killing FGs, getting this done

and then....

Luchino, who was admittedly "snoozing on the job" and "doing this for the money", CLEARLY noticed what was going on and deliberately fucked them. He fucked everyone who was there in support of this cleric. For the money.

That's just plain awful.

Will it get you suspended? Seems not. Should it get you and those who participated shunned by the server. Absolutely.


I am disappointed for you, Elixa, and thank you for sharing your experience. It is important to know what kind of people are in your community. I hope you find another opportunity to get your epic soon.

Originally Posted by Lagaidh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The first page of this thread made me sad for the community.

I am so tired of seeing what I call "teenager logic" applied in so many topics in these forums. Teenager logic is the term I use when someone is only interested in "technically correct" instead of the "spirit of an idea".

Dad gets angry at his 17 year old son for something and tells the kid he can't drive the family's car that weekend. When dad catches his kid driving a friend's car on Saturday, he confronts the kid. The kid reminds his dad that he said he couldn't drive the family car. The kid understands that his dad didn't want the kid to drive at all, but... the kid is technically correct.

Folks that aren't sociopathic understand when they are being pissy to somebody else. I'd wager we don't have an end game population here that is comprised of 25%+ sociopaths.

Why oh why do folks have to be so technically correct to one another?

Originally Posted by Nogdar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To answer what was asked several times:

While mostly everyone was raging in their own way when this happened, I was there and did contact Zagum during the event. I wish I could just paste the log but I can't, but here's roughly what I said to him:

"Hey there, I assume it is pointless to ask for you to let our lvl-60-without-epic-cleric-for-way-too-long loot the heart and let you keep the rest of the drops?"

to what he (again, roughly) answered:

"Hello, sorry things have gotten a bit messy, but we've been camping this for hours and have a cleric who needs it"

to what I said

"Ok thanks, gratz to him then. Bye"

I think, Zagum, you can confirm this is true.

It's prolly too late for this now. But my personal feeling is that since you guys claim to be nice chaps and that this is more of a sorry incident than an on-purpose douchebaggery move - why not simply have offered to let Elixa get the heart next time if he throws in his pearl instead of one of yours next time the occasion presents itself. Or even better offer him one of the hearts you have for sale for free against the promise of him giving you his pearl next time.

I think having offered that either during the events or whenever after IG or in this thread would've easily turned such a drama-filled thread into a peaceful happy ending to the story, and everyone's reputation would be unharmed. But well, as you said, apparently what's done is done.

I'm not judging anyone though, we all know what the HL scene of p99 is like, and I find it sad as many of us do, but that won't change it. Our politic at Europa is to stay away as much as possible from the general inter-guild drama going on, but sometimes we're just confronted to it which is why I'm posting now. I just feel terribad for Elixa who really is a friendly and helpful guy who deserved this chance to get his epic, finally. Just don't give up mate, we'll get it sooner or later [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let's all hope Velious comes out tomorrow to help a bit with these problems, right? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The above posts are fair and IMO are trying to redirect the issue back on track. And to be quite honest I wouldn’t want TMO killing the mob for me just to get my epic, I say stand back and give me a f*ing chance to swing my own damn sword!

The past has no power to stop you from being present now. Only your grievance about the past can do that. What is grievance? The baggage of old thought and emotion. - Lao Tzu

I wish people took their baggage elsewhere, this conversation is legit way of expressing disappointment, its is then just cluttered with spin spin spin. If you still think Elixa was wrong to post, start from the top of this post and read again, rinse repeat until you GET IT.

Good luck on your Epic Elixa!