[Black Jesus]

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I didn't. You inferred Christianity, did u not? Christmas trees (new testament) and 10 commandments? If you'd been talking Hanukkah I'd have figured Jadaism. But the pen strokes of Jesus...

Messianic Judaism

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Me too tbh. But the point stands about none of them being what the framers had in mind about militias.

Let me here call your attention to that part which gives the Congress power "to provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining the militia, and for governing such a part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States -- reserving to the states, respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress." By this, sir, you see that their control over our last and best defense is unlimited. If they neglect or refuse to discipline or arm our militia, they will be useless: the states can do neither -- this power being exclusively given to Congress. The power of appointing officers over men not disciplines or armed is ridiculous; so that this pretended little remains of power left to the states may, at the pleasure of Congress, be rendered nugatory. . . . Will the oppressor let go of the oppressed? Can the annal of mankind exhibit one single example where rulers overcharged with power willingly let go of the oppressed, though solicited and requested most earnestly? The application for amendments will therefore be fruitless. Sometimes the oppressed have got loose by one of those bloody struggles that desolate a country; but a willing relinquishment of power is one of those things which human nature never was, nor ever will be, capable of.

One interesting note about the Bill of Rights is they weren't included at first because they were just kind of de facto. Common knowledge at the time. Their addition was seen as superfluous. Gun ownership by citizens, freedom of religion, etc. were just a given and no big deal in the era.