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Originally Posted by Langrisser
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yea, if we're talking statistics lets use our heads...
the hero scenario and endofdays you freaks are waiting for will never come except as it comes to all men. your gun wont save you from the reaper [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
guns will also not give you medical care. would you rather have guns or doctors... just sayin. fuck off with the guns and get a real hobby please, this is 2013 thanks.
todays modern society in urban cities has little use for rifles to be open carried. the wide array of handguns, tasers, pepperspray, camera systems, cellphones, armor options, and police services should be the combination of personal protection and government service to handle your needs. you are not rambo, bros.
you of course should be allowed to have whatever weapons if you are out a certain distance from certain services and/or among wilderness threats, or just for fun... being near other people probably isnt your thing anyway so leave it to people who are adapted to living in a community without being totally paranoid and hoarding RPG's to fight ... who again??
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You should try to understand Platos 5 regimes and where we fall in that list. Here I will help you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plato%27s_five_regimes
The society you are putting so much faith in is prone to cycles where power becomes distributed amongst a few over a certain period of time. This centralization of powers becomes a Tyranny and has to be overthrown through the combined efforts of the people. This isn't about sport or even protection from criminals. An armed citizenry is the only defense against tyranny period. Non violent means are preferred but come on how many instances do you end up with something like a Gandhi where non violence wins out over a powerful force? Do you think anything even remotely like that is possible today with the vapid nature of our media obsessed culture?
Don't confuse the issues here the 2nd amendment is not about sport or crime. Its about protecting your god given rights from anyone else enforcing their will on you. This is why our system has checks and balances and even then the founders knew that would only work for so long (they probably understood Plato) so they put in another check that being an armed citizenry. Remove that last check and there is nothing to stop the rulers from doing what they want and backing it up with force, its been proven all throughout history.