[Kringe]

Oh and this.. Mangars RL friend for 15 Years..

Mangar wrote:

Kringe, I'm not entirely sure why you think you have this PvP credibility in comparison to others who spent their time killing actual people, and frankly I've always found it curious. When you joined LV, it was mostly for PvE purposes as that what you excelled in, and at the time it's what we did not. Without programs or hacks, I've never found you to be an overly accomplished PvPer. A good organizer and PvE Player? Yes. A good PK? No. Attempting to demean other members of LV don't change this.

Vasten wrote

Unlike you, I remember Kringe from EQ1. I remember we generally left when he arrived because it was almost pointless trying to kill him, and it had nothing to do with cheating. The guy had basically the same motto I did, which was to be prepared, but unlike us, he was exceptionally geared. I remember when he zoned into Greater Faydark on top of me (Nenlain at the time), Darkahn, Daymon, and a few others. He caught Daymon flat-footed and killed him instantly. Darkahn and I then went about DoT'ing him and sending in our pets. He just egg-shaped pumiced our dots and wore a fungi BP as he swatted our pets. We called for reinforcements, which included you, and we still could not beat him. I think that was when Kringe decided we were fun to "toy" with and he proceeded to interrupt our PvE crawls (Chardok, Hole, wherever we thought we could manage with minimal interference) and our occasional raids.

I said he toyed with us because that is exactly what he did. One time in PoG Kringe halted our raid by sniping our pullers until a few boneheads decided they would go kill him and instead managed to get themselves killed. Krushin told us that he would plead with Kringe to leave us alone. Kringe's reputation on Rallos Zek is probably more enduring than Lucid Vision’s. He was not simply "good" at PvE -- he was exceptional. There was not one of us who could take him down single-handedly, myself included. I never minded Kringe on RZ because I knew when he came after us, it was all in good fun. He would chat with you seconds before he came after you, then kill you and tell you “good fight” even though it really was never close. And that is what I mean when I say he toyed with us -- he did not really care much about us one way or the other, we passed time for him.

People like Sadko did not toy with us -- he hated us. He made it his personal business to destroy anything we were doing and he was reasonably successful. If I had to pick an Arch Enemy of Lucid Vision during its run on Rallos Zek it would be Sadko because of our mutual hatred. You can throw Gsam, Tiig, and Mearis in there as well off the top of my head. To a lesser extent, Malio, and I am sure I am forgetting a name or two

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