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Originally Posted by Godefroi
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Everyone here (even TMO) admitted this was cheating and exploiting. You carry on deflecting your embarassment by saying "hey admit your guild cheats". How do you want me to admit something that never happened? I'm sorry to disappoint Villexo and you here, but we didn't know about this, this cheating is so fucking obvious that who ever was on Aiaus was retarded enough to do it 50 times in front of our raid.
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I think the point, at least one of them, that he's trying to make is that many people are trying to impute wrongdoing onto every single member of TMO because of the actions of a single person (or a select few persons). If that is the case, then it would be equally valid to turn right back around and do the same thing to FE. Perhaps you and the majority of your leadership were unaware of such a tactic, just as some in TMO were. However, it is completely disingenuous to think that the abuse of IP exemptions has not occurred to some degree or another on both sides. That said, the degree of abuse may differ, but it has ben readily admitted that his abuses were likely the most severe to date.
What I find most interesting is that Elethia has gone so far as to agree with you that Aiaus should be punished. The only real difference seems to be in what the punishment should be (stripping the exemption and suspending versus banning or raid suspending the entire guild).
He's attempting to met you halfway and actually discuss and debate the issue, yet he is being dismissed as if he were in complete denial that anything wrong has happened at all.