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Originally Posted by arsenalpow
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I wasn't trying to slight A-Team or Europa, I was only listing guilds that I've seen compete for high end raid targets.
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Well I doubt we could kill stuff like CT 24/7 anyway. Maybe an A-Team/Europa alliance hehehe
[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] If there ever was a rotation, there would have to be some well-defined rules for entry and exit. Actually I've been agreeing with most of what you said in this thread (well except the language). It's hilarious to watch 2/3 of the high-level server population say 'we hate the current raid scene, it's not how we want to play' and then have Sirken and various TMO/FE members say 'well why don't you play that way if you want to get some pixels?'
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Originally Posted by shinko
We're not a zerg bros!
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OK Shinko you have been pretty nice to me in this thread so I will try to return the favor. I feel like both TMO and FE are zergs relative to the content, but not to the raid scene. In other words, both of you have far more players than you need to kill Trakanon given 2 hours, but not far more than you need to kill Trakanon given 3 minutes. And I think this is ultimately a big reason why TMO doesn't like rotations: with their amount of players, gear, and experience killing the mobs is trivial. It's only when they are under pressure that there is any amount of challenge.
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Originally Posted by aenariefenninro
This is why this argument generally never goes anywhere. The people in TMO / FE / IB / BDA / etc have been WILLING to be miserable for days for those 15 minutes of fun.
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And this is the other big reason we will not see rotations on this server. Because there are a ton of hypercompetitive goal-oriented type-A players who treat this game as a job and don't think anyone else should be able to enter their little club without the requisite hazing. Look at Mavpal: he's saying 'i left divinity and joined FE and put in all my time batphoning/poopsocking/tracking so I could get my pixels, why should divinity get anything without doing something?' And I can sympathize with this argument, what baffles me is why people were willing to do it in the first place :P
TL;DR: I hope I am wrong, but I think this community is simply too competitive for rotations to stick, and variance throws a huge monkey wrench into the whole business. What needs to happen is
simultaneous repops. But it seems that Sirken/Rogean are happy with the current environment, so I doubt anything will change.
That said, if you guys want to work out a rotation you have my vote.