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Originally Posted by maverixdamighty
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I agree with some of what Aenarie is saying. There isn't much effort being made by these guilds to get targets. Yes I understand they don't want to have to do any tracking, organizing, etc because they think that it won't pay off, but honestly like others have said if you don't put in some effort no one is going to take you seriously. The only guild outside of tmo/fe that I've seen tracking lately was divinity a few sevs ago. I'm sure others have done it, but that's just the only guild i've seen doing anything.
If you want some of these mobs put forth some effort during your guilds best raiding hours and I think this would be received much better. That still covers most of the arguments being made about not wanting to batphone at 3 am, poopsock, camp chars etc.
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It just gets escalated. Smaller guilds could track and campout for Sev and then from there it turns into people standing on the spawn point waiting to pull, then it turns into raids sitting on the spawn point. The level of stupidity doesn't stop, and that's assuming you can even catch a spawn in your guild's window of opportunity and get the pull before TMO or FE and get your raid force online to kill the pull in under 2 minutes. Again, it's all preposterous.