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Originally Posted by AenarieFenninRo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll start with this: i'm not against the idea, and that I hope something can be worked out to make everyone happy...

But I gotta ask, and not in a flame way but in all seriousness:

Does this feel to anyone else like kids asking for a participant trophy because they didn't take 1st / 2nd place in some sporting event?

The world has gone soft in so many ways that we want to make sure everyone is happy all the time at everyone else's expense, and it really does bother me. Growing up, if we didn't win, we didn't get a trophy, plain and simple. Now days, everyone gets a trophy for the most mundane crap and it's ridiculous, all in an effort to make everyone happy.

It seems in its way, that even when I was a kid, we had to do something instead of just requesting that no other team was on the field so they could kick the ball toward the goal in the hopes of it going in.

I'm not saying that something cant or shouldn't be worked out, but it seems to me that these smaller / minor / family oriented type of guilds need to put in SOME kind of effort rather than just asking for everyone else to stop killing mobs so that they have a chance to do so. This is in essence what I am seeing being requested here.

It has been stated MANY times by top guilds on the server... TMO / IB / VD / FE / whomever... pick an abbreviation... that if you put in some time and track the mobs, and let the upper tier guilds know you would like a shot at mob X, that those guilds have offered to be accommodating. I have yet to see any of these smaller guilds do this though. Keeping in mind that this may not be the case with certain targets such as Trakanon or VP or something, but there are other targets out there like Talendor, Serverilous, Nobles, Inny, etc etc

I am all for everyone having fun, and everyone getting a chance to do something they might not normally get the chance to do, but the proposals I have seen thus far are simply asking the other teams to step off the field of play so that someone else can have a go at it.

Disclaimer: These are personal views, and not that of any guild, so please don't try to make the associations between my own views and that of the guild I belong to.

If we follow this logic, there shouldn't be seperate leagues. There shouldn't be distinction between men and women. "Sorry girlz, but you need to step up your game if you want to win that medal!".

It's a request to have a regular time window in which 2nd league guilds would be able to compete among each other. By investing so much time and effort, top guilds would still get to enjoy an overwhelming part of the content (we're talking non priority targets here ...). Which happens to be from a 13 y.o game on an emu server and now, we're pretty much all adults if I'm not mistaken. I don't see why we couldn't agree on something that trivial really.

Lastly, at the moment, no details were discussed on how would small guilds manage that window. So in my opinion, there would still be competition involved.

In conclusion, if that's what you want to hear, yes, players in smaller guilds don't come near the two current top guilds involvement. However, I didn't really see anybody claiming otherwise. And if you're "all for everyone having fun, and everyone getting a chance to do something they might not normally get the chance to do", then you should support this request too [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]