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Originally Posted by Daywolf
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Liberty is what they have in Iraq, but we don’t have here… or little of. Liberty is, for instance, the ability to bear arms at any time and any place, loaded, so to defend ones friends, family and neighbors. In Iraq they can pretty much carry full-auto assault most anyplace they go. In the US you are lucky to have a semi-auto from before the ban, and locked up. In Canada… lol like 4% have a handgun.
Liberty is basically, in this case, having the ability to meet your obligation to others, by your own free will and choosing, by whatever means to whatever ends. Personal firearms is something that needs to be removed before a government can take all freedoms away from the people when it wills to; but it is government which should not be free. Yes liberty is much more, but this answer is specific to my post that you were replying to. For the broader understanding of our Liberty in the US, one needs to read the US Constitution… w/o special interpretation but literal. The founders had it right, as well as could be governed by man at least.
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Im still struggling with this issue. I used to be a staunch supporter of weapon bans of any kind, until i was attacked 3 times in 6 months in the subway. Now i carry a knife. I differ in that from most people from the left i guess.
But that leaves also other areas with big question marks. Like people showing up with automatic rifles at rallies of the kind i join sometimes in Canada, just to intimidate people. Columbine doesnt happen often in Canada because its alot harder to get access to these kinds of weapons. So im still struggling about where i stand on this issue.
Liberty is also for me freedom of association and freedom of speech, freedom of movement which we are seeing being repressed in lots of western countries at this point in time. All the simple things that are in the american constitution, canadian charter of rights and freedoms, UN declaration of human rights, thats liberty to me. Its more than that, but those are the basics.