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Originally Posted by girth
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Hell dude, in EQ nobody even beat GoD until OoW released
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Devil's advocate here, but that's probably because no one cared to. Everyone I knew in EQ quit the game when the abortion that was GoD was released.
EQ cockblocked raiders starting with Luclin. Not to be ultra uber challenging and thus rewarding, but because the content
simply wasn't in the game yet. As a result, you got stuff like Vex Thal keying, ridiculously hard bosses that were later nerfed directly or indirectly, and other silly holding patterns designed to buy Sony time to actually implement the content they promised. It happened for every expansion up until WoW appeared and put Sony's shenanigans to shame.
If you played WoW during the Burning Crusade and went to SSC or TK (The Eye) during the first three-five months you would have seen that the zones simply weren't finished -- ridiculously difficult trash pulls that respawned every hour to slow progress, final bosses that actually didn't drop loot, etc. Same story with AQ40 and the whole War Effort + Opening Rod event. Blizzard was just buying time to actually finish content. Then Tigole got fired and Blizzard suddenly decided to be upfront and honest with content (ie, you would get a message when trying to zone into Black Temple that the zone isn't done yet, sorry).
Was Ragnaros harder than Nagafen? Was Vox harder than Neferian? Was the Avatar of War worse than Patchwerk? I really can't answer those questions. I was 15 years old on a 56k connection when Nagafen was just a whispered legend amongst lowbies. My friends and I printed out maps to zones because it took so long for pages to load. Information on how to even *do* encounters was hard to get due not only to the secrecy surrounding functional tactics, but also because of the state of technology at the time.
Anyway, my point is, I don't really consider intentionally bugging encounters or tweaking them WAY out of the difficulty curve as an issue of "challenge." It's just a ripoff. Sony, Blizzard, and even Verant itself have all been guilty of this at one time or another... but Sony definitely was the worst.