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Originally Posted by astarothel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

6 Targets* 12 hours variance -- 72 hours. Now assuming that's total hours per week, no windows overlap, thats 60% of a week. That's assuming 24/7. Cut it down to playable hours and it only gets worse.

First 15 relies upon camping. So does this proposal.

You know I keep reading these threads and it's the same shit over and over.

So I'm just gonna say it

Even FFA would rely upon camping. It won't stop the smart guilds from devising ways to be in the best position possible to get the mobs. That's being there when they spawn. At the ready. Hence "camping"

None of you people get it still. The logical conclusion to all of these different proposals, tactics, from IB starting the camping thing by using druids to camp in shifts so their entire guild didn't have to, all have to come to this point. If you want mobs you have to camp them. Want to stop guilds from doing it? I guess either try to KS them, or call timers, or roll call them. More than one guild going to camp a mob? Have bards in shifts spamming AOE song to catch first aggro, batphone/guild at the ready.

This is why I continue to scratch my head when IB says "FFA will save teh raids!". They were the ones who started the abnormal camping methods in the first place. I really don't understand why they bitch about camping so much now. They sure didn't have a problem with it when their druids were doing it for them and they could be logged off doing other shit. Must have been nice huh guys.

Nobody seems to remember this who is in their guild for some reason. Now that their entire guild has to do what their druids were doing for months, suddenly it's "cheap". Every time Alawen brings his kleenex to a thread I want to scream at the guy "YOU camped mobs for 6 months 12 hours a day. Please STFU"

They were the ones who proposed variance. They were the ones, along with a few other guilds that created the current raiding rules. Now everyone is going apeshit trying to figure out what to do because people are actually willing to camp the boss mobs. You think this is going to get better in Kunark? It's going to get worse. Trakanon anyone? VP keys anyone? We have only seen the tip of the iceberg.

In reality, Everquest is an extremely flawed game. It was a good idea, but other MMos have vastly improved upon the genre. The nostalgia of the old raiding scene is skewed. People handled it differently from server to server. No 2 servers were really alike to be honest. You have 5-6 mobs a week right now. A WEEK. All of them are pushovers. None of the loot except for a select few items are jaw dropping. People pass the time by bitching at each other on the forums. Kunark isn't even going to be out until probably next year anyways. The current raiding guilds will be burned out long before then, so none of these mobs, and none of this shit even matters right now. How is sky going to be handled? FFA? First 15? Seriously?

The end game here has been a dick waving contest since day one. It's been basically IB waving their dick in everyone's face and trying to one up the server until another guild decided to step it up to as far as you can possibly take this. I don't even blame IB for doing it, I just wish they would have handled it better instead of rubbing it in everyone's face with shit eating grins. It created this massive ego stalemate between both guilds now which is a shame.

First nobody but IB could really even kill the bosses. They never had a chance to practice indefinitely without another guild hassling them and calling timers for months like IB did, You have to remember the first two guilds were on a rotation. They could wipe, retry, wipe, retry. Other guilds haven't had that luxury. They had to adapt to survive. It really annoys me when I see these noobs who have never done a damn thing or even TRY to kill a mob come in here and try to dictate new raid rules. Or some scrub recruit from one guild or another try and dictate shit. They don't have a clue.

It takes a lot of effort, organization, morale boosting, leadership, ect. to hold together a raiding guild. I give a lot of credit to the leadership of both DA and IB. They have worked their asses off. Their members have worked their asses off. It's hard fucking work to kill shit on this server. Camping is nothing. Try getting 30 min timer called on you as soon as Vox spawns. Get your raid together, pull the trash, buff, and kill Vox within 30 minutes. One mistake and it's a potential wipe. If none of you can do this for Vox, how are you going to do it for Trakanon.

I haven't seen any of you fuckers organize your guilds and even attempt to call a timer on DA or IB. Divinity maybe once or twice. Remedy? Fuck no. All they do is farm trash in the planes over and over. GC? lol. WI? Whatever. Trans? They made a few half hearted attempts at druid tracking but their guild never gave a fuck even enough to login for a batphone. Poopsocking had nothing to do with it. Am I missing anyone? Dutchmasters? Who

As far as I'm concerned the only people that deserve to create new raiding rules are the 2 guilds that have actually raided. The two guilds that have put in the time, effort, organization, mobilization, tracking, and raiding. IB and DA. The rest of you scrubs can fuck off. You've never done jack shit to earn the right. You never challenged IB. You never even tried. You were too chickenshit or lazy to put any effort into organizing yourselves and getting kills. Not even a druid/batphone setup to call ONE timer or roll call. Not once. Now you want to create new raid rules? No fucking thank you. I don't care for IB's methods, or the trolling by a select few of their members, but I respect the effort they have put into getting their mobs. The rest of you are useless. This server could have had a much better raiding environment if you people had organized even a little bit and contested some mobs. Called some timers. Made shit interesting. But you rolled over like a bunch of pussies and are now whining and bitching on the forums talking shit. Well guess what. IB and DA are getting to experience the Gods and Dragons, grabbing the loot and you guys are holding your dicks.

Yea I said it because I'm sick of this shit. Nothing is going to change. Stop making these threads pretending like shit is going to change, and you know wtf you are talking about. Stop talking and start DOING something in game. I imagine raiding sucks when you've killed your 2549th Shiverback or Loathing Lich and have yet to engage one boss. in 9 months. When DA and IB decide to stop raiding you guys can go plant your fucking tulips, hold hands and dance in a circle, and do your rotation thing or something.