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Originally Posted by Nocturne
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Why would you want to keep the truth of reality out of public schools? So basically you support the dumbing down of people?
If God created the physical universe then that means he is not a physical being himself and therefor isn't subject to the rules of the universe. Everything within the universe including the universe itself has a beginning and an end and as such, is a finite creation. God represents the infinite, the eternal, no beginning nor end. It's not a cop out at all, just logic really. Something had to of always existed otherwise there would only be nothing. We know this something isn't the universe because we know the universe had a beginning just like our planet and our sun had a beginning.
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You're not arguing logically. You can't just say "god isn't bound by these rules because he is god", that IS a cop out and it has no place in logical discourse. You're essentially making an argument and then elevating your own position above everything else so it can't be questioned.