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Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

in all seriousness, can i ask what you guys didnt like about it that turned u off so bad? are u just not into the genre? is it the brother-sister sex? the cannibalism? have u read the books (cuz maybe its just the actors you hate?)? did GRRM kill your dog? was it the absence of elves in a "fantasy" series? too much secret plotting?

truly curious what turned you guys off so badly, open up your heart to me

Probably because every character spends literally all of their time being brutally emotionally tortured? I don't understand how anyone with a decent amount of empathy for their fellow man can like the show at all.

Theon has been tortured repeatedly by Ramsay Bolton. Ramsay removes the skin on several of Theon's toes and fingers, leaving him in agony for days before removing the joints but only after Theon begs him to remove them. He broke and removed several of Theon's teeth because Ramsay hated his smiles. It is also implied, but not confirmed, that Ramsay removes Theon's genitals as well. Theon is forced to take on the guise of Reek, Ramsay's former serving man. Theon is forbidden to bathe and is caked from head to toe in filth and excrement.

Due to the torture he endured at Ramsay's hands, Theon's appearance has dramatically changed. He looks like he has aged forty years and several of his teeth have been knocked out, many more are loose meaning Theon cant even eat without suffering agony. Theon has lost three stone in weight, his skin has turned pasty, and his hair is white and brittle. He can no longer use a bow due to the loss of some fingers and hobbles like an old man due to the loss of several toes

And that is just the beginning: Circe cuckolds the king, Joffery beats Sansa constantly, Jaime pushes Bran out of a window (and doesn't kill him of course, that would be nice) leaving him paralyzed, The Hound has his face half burned away by his older brother, Snow is banished to the north, Jaime loses his hand, Tyrion kills his father, hell even the fucking dire wolves are killed. My point is that its not just that characters are killed, its that they continue to live on in misery. I've heard that his inspiration for GoT was the war of the roses. That was bloody as hell, but the point is they just killed people back then. But of course we are so modern now that we don't care. For comparison, here is Shakespeare on the war of the roses. The Lancastrians have killed Richard the Duke of York's son, so he delivers a great soliloquy expressing his grief and promising revenge.

She-wolf of France, but worse than wolves of France,
Whose tongue more poisons than the adder's tooth!
How ill-beseeming is it in thy sex
To triumph, like an Amazonian trull,
Upon their woes whom fortune captivates!
But that thy face is, vizard-like, unchanging,
Made impudent with use of evil deeds,
I would assay, proud queen, to make thee blush.
To tell thee whence thou camest, of whom derived,
Were shame enough to shame thee, wert thou not shameless.
Thy father bears the type of King of Naples,
Of both the Sicils and Jerusalem,
Yet not so wealthy as an English yeoman.
Hath that poor monarch taught thee to insult?
It needs not, nor it boots thee not, proud queen,
Unless the adage must be verified,
That beggars mounted run their horse to death.
'Tis beauty that doth oft make women proud;
But, God he knows, thy share thereof is small:
'Tis virtue that doth make them most admired;
The contrary doth make thee wonder'd at:
'Tis government that makes them seem divine;
The want thereof makes thee abominable:
Thou art as opposite to every good
As the Antipodes are unto us,
Or as the south to the septentrion.
O tiger's heart wrapt in a woman's hide!
How couldst thou drain the life-blood of the child,
To bid the father wipe his eyes withal,
And yet be seen to bear a woman's face?
Women are soft, mild, pitiful and flexible;
Thou stern, obdurate, flinty, rough, remorseless.
Bids't thou me rage? why, now thou hast thy wish:
Wouldst have me weep? why, now thou hast thy will:
For raging wind blows up incessant showers,
And when the rage allays, the rain begins.
These tears are my sweet Rutland's obsequies:
And every drop cries vengeance for his death,
'Gainst thee, fell Clifford, and thee, false
Frenchwoman.

Shakespeare's history plays are bloody as all hell but they are also not nearly so negative. Which is one of the many reasons he's a million times better than GRRM, even 500 years before [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]