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Old 06-27-2010, 01:54 PM
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I like how people here are making up camping rules to suit them and this situation when the camping rules are already clearly posted for all to read and understand. Just because you don't like one particular rule, or it doesn't work for your class or playstyle or standards of efficiency doesn't mean you can selectively choose to ignore it.

I am not disagreeing the enchanter had the camp at the time the group came back from CR. Per the rules that currently exist to handle this kind of crap, yes... the original group had not retained a presence at the camp, nor did they demonstrate the ability to hold the camp since they wiped. The group knew this based on the first screenshot of the discussion. That's why Dravyen backed down. They knew they did not hold rights to the camp.

However, the enchanter zoned during the course of clearing the camp. At the moment he did this, I don't care how much you want to lawyer this up with hypothetical situations and kiting and bullshit like that, he did not retain a presence IN THE ZONE, much less the camp. For those of you that disagree, please draw me some fucking diagrams or flowcharts proving that you can be outside the zone and "retaining a presence at the camp" in a zone you are not in. You can't. Because it's not fucking possible. The enchanter lost rights to the camp at this point, and therefore the deal/ultimatum was void because the camp became the groups.

Why the enchanter zoned is not my concern. It was stated that the pet was at 5% health. If the enchanter cannot hold the camp with a pet at 5% health, then he demonstrates an inability to hold the camp. You're absolutely right... it was a matter of efficiency. More so, a matter of time. If the enchanter had retained presence at the camp as required by the server rules to continue to have rights at the camp, the enchanter would have had several options I can think of off the top of my head:

a) Wait for the pet to regain HP naturally, which may or may not have been before respawn. Tough luck. If you cannot clear the camp before shit starts respawning so you can get to the PH/named, that's your problem. Maybe you should group up and stop solo farming stuff you can't clear out the respawn on while retaining a presence at the camp. Should have rolled a necro or mage.

b) Kill the pet, charm a new one. Probably a little risky in this situation, but if you want to maintain rights to the camp, this is where as a solo caster, you must demonstrate your ability to hold the camp.

c) Mez/memblur so that it regains HP faster, then re-charm. Same as (b).

d) Zone out to break charm and let the mob regain HP faster, then zone back in and re-charm. This, ironically enough, is the only one of the four options I presented (I'm sure there are more) that does not retain a presence at the camp and loses his rights to the camp per the server rules. If the OP had done B or C, he would have maintained rights to the camp and the other group would not have been able to "legally" claim the camp, and this post wouldn't even exist right now.
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