Good post Heartbrand. I'll add my perspective.
I think everyone can understand to some extent that it can be cool to be the 'underdog', to fight the biggest guild on the server and make slow but steady progress. Which is why I joined Holocaust, even though I knew that at the time they were slowing beginning to lose their grasp as #1 ( after the banning)
I quit for 6 months and came back when Noah told me about Red Dawn. He explained to me that it was the best incarnation of a rebel guild on the server to date. That they actively try to contest mobs, and have scheduled raids. Badass. So I rejoined the game, and quickly became a Disciple of Emperor Heartbrand and his new found army.
Things were going relatively well, despite that disastrous raid against Nagafen I felt that things were generally improving and I had high hopes about the future.
Then, One day, I log in and find out that Lite and a bunch of people made a power play and left the guild and created their own. I was disgusted, and confused, as I thought that there was nothing wrong with The Emperor and his leadership. In fact under his leadership we had the most organized rebel guild on the server to date.
However Lite wasn't happy with it for whatever reason, and I was basically left with no choice but to join his new guild. Victory Algorithim i believe it was called. Long story short, not only did things not improve they got drastically worse. Several other spin off guilds were created, a lot of pathetic drama ensued, and no fucking dragons died. A trend that seems to continue to this day.
In short I can't speak for Andis's leadership but Lite (although being a decent enough pal) destroyed the best hope that this server ever had of a successfully rebel guild and through a series of poor decisions because he just HAD TO BE IN CHARGE the mediocrity continues to this day. I joined Nihilum because I was fed up with the pathetic drama and lack of leadership, and you know what, I'm way happier in Nihilum than in any other guild I've been in on this server.
I may have lost hope but I hope others continue to do dream and desire that actual, legitimate mob contestation pvp that we all so crave.
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