[Vellatri]

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My claim never was that overall violent crimes decreased in Australia since the gun ban.

Good thing you can't go back and edit your posts.

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The stats in your link say overall violence has increased. the stats in all 3 of mine state that overall violence has remained relatively unchanged or decreased slightly.


If you're not saying the stats conflict, what are we arguing about?

Originally Posted by Vellatri [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Where? You never pointed out any such "overall violence" item.

I was pointing out that Australia experienced a decrease in murder comparable with the U.S., where no such ban exists. At the same time, it experienced an increase in violent crime while the U.S. experienced a decrease. It's all in the first post.

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you'd read what I linked you'd find the overall violence statistics in those studies.

Originally Posted by Vellatri [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They say nothing about overall violence decreasing. Furthermore, the onus is not on me to prove a negative. If the "facts" are so obvious, you should be able to pull them out front and center.