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Originally Posted by Wrei [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Right so, why not just have a button that pumps out every loot in the game? I mean seriously, everyone is ENTITLED to get their ENJOYMENT. Why do we even bother raiding? Seriously we should just get whatever we want, when we want no?



I realize everyone's Live experience has been different on various server. I assure you however that there has been servers that managed just fine WITHOUT GM interference... You are either too stubborn or ignorant to base an opinion on something that hasn't even been tried yet on this community.



Right, cause on live you had 40 guilds competing for the mobs right? This may be a shock to you but there are people who play the game and still enjoy without raiding. Whether it's trade skilling or accumulating virtual wealth via farming. Not everything is about killing smelly dragons. Do you even realize why EQ died? Because it based its model catering to the smallest player base, the hardcore gamer. It pumped out expansion after expansion and introduce new bosses to kill to satisfy its raiders. When in reality the majority of the gamers (the casuals) only played EQ because it was the only game at the time (for an MMO). WoW came in to cater the casuals and look what happened, over 10million accounts compared to what now? I'll say 250K and be generous. Even if everyone on the server hits 50, you are NOT going to see 50 different raiding guilds. So yeah it will be a lot smaller than what your describing.



Yeah, cause the other guilds wanting their shot at bosses is our greed as well. Fixed rotation (old system) is such a short sighted system it's not even funny. So what you get to kill 1 boss every 2months eventually? What about key mobs? Maybe a guild will get to see VP by the time we're halfway through Velious release then.. If everyone manned up and stopped crying and mobilized instead of this "campfest" there would be stability once again. As EVERY guild would have a shot at any boss.



IB wants to compete and raid against other guilds... not like our MO is different than any other raiding guild here. No offense but that's not what you were saying back then, i find it funny that you keep going back to the 10 year old argument. If your not playing the raiding game then why bother giving your 2 cents?



You forgot a fundamental reason as well, EQ Classic experience was about competition in the raiding game. Seriously, we had guilds cockblocking each other on key mobs to insure their dominance within their tier content. Do I think it's fair? Perhaps not but that's what the game was in Classic and that's how it should be here. We wouldn't even be having this discussion if there was more content at hand when guilds can move on to the next stage. Accuse us of greed the day you see IB killing a boss to prevent another guild from getting the boss (when we don't need it). We've moved on from Maestro, we'll move on from more as more stuff pops in.



Wow seriously...this baseless accusation is just retarded. I couldn't believe the stupid shit Trans was saying about us back then (SEQ,MQ,Hacking,GM favoritism) but once people joined us they realized we're just a raiding guild. If you still have doubts ask your ex trans guildies that joined us at the end. It may be hard to believe but we're not the cheating sketchbags you think we are.


I'm sure you can help out by getting a tag and sitting AFK for days on end. It's not that much of a commitment.

Yet if you remember...the rotation while unpopular definitely was LESS drama and bullshit than what it going on right now...

You can try and spin my responses to detract from what you originally stated but the fact remains. The current state of affairs is much worse than a GM enforced rotation. While you think that "entitlement" means first come first serve there is a a lot of people that feel it is just a game that we play for enjoyment and want to have the same chance. By chance you claim "then compete" racing is classic etc etc. We state that we are no longer kids/students that can skip class for a raid content.

Thus is the things that Transcendence is now. Not because you are better or more skilled. But because we have to make a choice. I choose to not play on P1999 because i see that with all the greed and selfishness there will never be a system that is fair to all.