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That's just it. Both guilds will believe they had aggro first. So an entire guild is going to get banned for Ks'ing even though they believe they aggro'd first.
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how much do you trust your puller? are you willing to risk a month long ban if he is wrong?
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Originally Posted by matahari
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Or the other guild has someone un-guilded train the other guild.
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That's why I suggested and account and IP ban. If you train with an unguilded alt on an different account that you are playing with an IP exemption (skirting the rules already) then you will effectively get both accounts banned.
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Both guilds are sitting with 5 giants in the way of the dragon. Both guilds know that if they pull the giants the other guild will take the dragon.
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So, they have some decisions to make. Maybe they will race, maybe they will work together, maybe they will duel for the right to the kill, maybe they will roll dice. As long as they don't break the rules, I'm cool.
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If adding rules to the first to engage works out. That would be great for the server.
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I agree!
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But you know there is going to be a ton more fighting than there is under this camp fest ruleset of who gets the mob.
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Only until the first half dozen or so bans get handed out. Then people will realize that the costs of fighting are way higher than the potential benefits. If by fighting you mean training and KSing, that is.
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I like rotation/ calendar system : ) but i'm a carebear.
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GM enforced rotations have already been shot down. Barring that, you could maybe have a player run rotation, but good luck convincing all the guilds involved. I know it will be a hard sell with me and many others.
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Every other system will have a ton of fighting.
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If, by "fighting", you mean KSing and training, then that is just a matter of the penalties being too light. If, by "fighting", you mean racing, then I would say there is a sizable number of players on this server that WANT "fighting".
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Like a dev said. 80people will sit on the dragon spawn in 3 or 4 diff guilds. Ban 3 of the 4 guilds for a month for trying to ks the impossible to know first to engage? Than after that dragon dies repeat in the next zone.
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Couple things... first to aggro is not impossible to determine. The players involved in the pull should be able to tell, and if they aren't sure, perhaps they will want to err on the side of caution, given the penalties of being wrong. As for after the fact, then GMs will know. It is recorded in the logs. If 3 other guilds, knowing the consequences, all go for a KS, then yes, ban them. If that happens, there most certainly will NOT be a repeat in the next zone, because there will only be one guild left to go after dragon #2. Furthermore, one month later when the other 3 guilds come back from their ban, they probably be less likely to try KSing again.