A lot of the raid guilds here are point based. The more casual raid guilds tend to be loot council. Flawless Victory is for the most part NBG, but big ticket items are council. I'm a casual player so FVs system works great for me.
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Phinger Wiggleur (Blue) / Kinbik (Green)
60 Enchanters Extraordinaire
GNOMISH WORLD ORDER
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