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Originally Posted by Humerox
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I don't care what anyone says...Australia had 11 mass gun slayings in the decade before they implemented strict gun-control, and 0...count them...0 since.
REAL gun laws are required, not just jokes that are ineffective. We need to look at Australia's policy pretty hard. I'm a firm second-amendment believer, but I don't think our right extends to semi-automatic handguns or assault rifles. They make mass killing easy and efficient...and we as civilians need them as much as we do bazookas and tanks.
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This stuff about Australia is a joke. You read a website and 'trust' what they say without fact. Mass killings still happen in Australia and crazy people are still crazy with or without guns. (Childers Fire / Monash Shooting / Melbourne killings / Snowtown / etc.). I don't care to own a semi-automatic weapon but it won't solve the problem. Handguns are involved in about 20 times as many murders than rifles are. My problem is that when we ban assault weapons, it won't solve the problem, then they will want your handguns. All the time, the real problem is that some people are just fucking crazy or snap. If they can't kill someone with a gun, then they will do what Timothy McVeigh did and make a bomb, or just run people down with their car, etc. The tool the crazy person uses to be crazy isn't the problem.
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Originally Posted by Humerox
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If you're concerned about repelling a tyrannical dictator that would decide to send the most powerful military in history against you...well, the opportunity for civilians in America to be able to defend against that is ancient history.
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The point of having a people with arms is that the largest standing army in the country will be the free people and not the military. If an entire populace, freely armed, did want to rebel or overthrow tyranny, it would be possible even if the government has more firepower. I realize you will come back with 'well they will just nuke them' or use drones' etc. I get it and still believe that a population, freely armed would persevere. (Especially when the 'army' you are against is made up of the people that are rebelling, very few in the armed forces would execute against American citizens in this situation).