Mount and Blade and Dwarf fortress are two of my very favorite games, so those are clearly some astute suggestions :P
I've played Haven and Hearth as well and enjoyed it, for what it was. Haven't tried the others. Looks promising but I'm desperate to see something developed on a large scale by a major studio.
Salem looked promising. Was developed in part by the Haven and Hearth guy, funded by Paradox, but the overall feel from reading about the beta makes me scared they've botched the thing. Labelled "The Crafting MMO"
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