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Originally Posted by fastboy21
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I played on live, from virtually day one...
It never ceases to amaze how some folks assume that anyone who disagrees with them is somehow ignorant. Can it possibly be that people who know all about EQ, played on live, etc just simply don't agree with you???
You are talking about "need vs. greed" (whether you want to or not) because it is tied to the decision about how to allow rolling and assigning of loot.
There is a difference between fair and equal. Equal means everyone in the group gets the same thing, fair means they get the same process. It is very possible to be fair without everyone getting an equal share of the booty.
In any case, its been debated for over a decade at this point and I don't see it being brought to any special conclusion here in this thread.
The best way to avoid problems related to loot is to make sure the loot rules are clear and explained when a group forms and to tell new people who join the group. Most problems related to loot arguments happen when there are no agreed upon rules upfront and then something valuable drops. Its too late at that point to try to assign loot rules, and arguments suddenly appear.
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You are an ignorant not because you dont agree with me but because you choose not to understand a simple point because you choose to be a greedy person. Anyone who embraces greed all like its a fair loot method is a greedy person. You shouldnt expect to be considered anything less considering you are asking for the chance to win on everything potentially leaving some members with no loot because you are greedy and expect to win all the loot. Is that hard to understand? If you put the point out there for what it is thats what it comes down to. greed rolling and need rolling are to seperate things anyone who says need rolls are potential upgrades for everyone as well and get to roll are even bigger loot whores but i think people like this and people who greed all go hand in hand. NBG was invented because people like you expecting even something someone else in the group needs for their character directly. not for a potential twink or selling to make money.. you are trying to make a point like there is a difference in the meaning of equal and fair? this just shows you have a problem with being a decent person. equal in this situation equals fair... stop trying to politic the subject and make a good point. People keep trying to make a point like its been argued since 99 and thats not how i remember i played from begining of live and it was always known that people who used greed all are just loot whores so "people who argued it back then" were still considered loot whores period doesnt matter if you dont want to realize that or not. The reason I compare loot whores to ninja looters is because they both have the same personality type.. if you had that attempt in live i dont see how you ever got into a decent guild because decent guilds on live didnt recruit people of that nature. By decent I mean ascent arirang eastern keep guilds of that nature on live. They also had strict recruitment policy's and gave you plenty enough time to prove yourself if you expected greed all when apping to their guild and a guild member seen you doing that they would not even consider your app because its pathetic to be so loot hungry and the people who had that mentality eventually went on the ninja something at a raid. Really i dont care if this makes a difference just gives me a list of people who are pathetic enough not to group with.