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Originally Posted by Tanthallas
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Well I will say I appreciate the tone of your responses.
First:
A: A mob is classified as engaged as long as it has aggro on at least one player.
First to 'engage' is defined as aggro on at least one player - not a group of players or raid. The parameter on this is that a sufficient raid force must be present. This has nothing to do with the tactics employed in pulling the mob, etc.
Second:
If an engaged mob has aggro on atleast one player, then an 'unengaged' mob has aggro on no players. When CT DT's someone as a result of his zone-wide DT, that person enters and simultaneously exists the criteria of engagement. However, when someone is on the aggro list and CT DT's that person, that person is engaged from the time he or she is on the aggro list to the time he or she is DTed.
Third:
Engaging in 'good faith' can mean many things. Attempting to aggro CT before another raid-force and pull him to your raid force may be tactically unsound, however based on the rules and the competition for FTE that they create it is a completely legitimate 'good faith' attempt to get on the aggro list before the other raid. IF there was not a raid force present, then this would obviously not be in 'good faith'...
You must see that, given Scorchin's being first on the aggro list, if all of the raid-force present simply rushed CT after he was DTed then this ruling would have gone differently. And that is the problem. FTE is not based upon proximity of the raid to the mob - if this is now the case, well, expect people to start forming their raids closer to mobs rather than at otherwise chosen locations and simply throw their force at the mob the second they see a puller from another guild tag them.
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Jesus just too many for me to point out individualy.
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Your points contradict themselves in the same paragraph. You claim FTE is individualistic and not guild based and then based on your assumption you prove TMO deserves the mob. If CT was FE's on an FTE basis, when Scorchin died he lost all rights to the mob. Trying to pull CT thru an engaged "raid force' was tactically unsound. If your guild engaged FE likely would have gotten the kill(If TMO stayed engaged, because you would have definitely wiped). However, based on your assumptions, FE lost fte by dying and by not having another member with aggro.
Tactics always have something to do with loot awards. If VS is FTE'd but trained to the zone in that guild loses rights to the mob. Just another example of tactics mattering.