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Originally Posted by Orruar
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I think the point he was making is that minorities got out and voted in huge numbers for Obama. If it's back to 2 white guys in 2016, will that continue? I haven't seen numbers on the voter participation rate for minorities in the last few elections, but that would be interesting to see.
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It's fewer than 2008, but Republican turnout and youth were less too. There just wasn't as much enthusiasm this time.
In 2016 the Democrats have to recapture what they had in 2008. How will they? Maybe Hillary? She comes with baggage now though. Who knows.
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Originally Posted by Lazortag
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I like how in your world, minorities all have no agency and feel compelled to vote for people who they "identify" with, but white people vote for people whom they share an ideology with (ignoring the fact that less white people voted for Obama than the average democrat, meaning that whether the democrats pick a minority or not is irrelevant). There's a ton of evidence that minorities vote democrat because they agree with their policies (or at least they're revolted by republican policies), including statistics that were already mentioned in this thread, while there's no evidence that they voted for Obama just because they look like him or because they identify with him as a minority. That's seriously very farfetched, and saying it over and over again won't make it true.
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Yes they vote Democratic most of the time, but in Obama's case they have
reason to go out and vote.
Do you think they would have voted in such numbers if it were two old white guys running? You think they voted en masse for John Kerry, or Al Gore? Nope. They didn't.
Watch this for a fun sample of what it was like in 2008 and I'm sure 2012
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It's just an example and doesn't represent everyone, but I daresay it does represent a good portion.