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Originally Posted by Ihealyou
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I wasn't trying to say that humans matter in the grand scheme of things, or that existence ends with the end of life. If the universe consisted of only a single rock, there would still be existence as the rock needs a framework to exist in.
There are some pretty strong philosophical and physics based arguments for the eternity of existence. Philosophically, it can be argued that existence must have always existed. If there was a time before existence, how was it created? If it was God, what framework did God exist in? There must have been some existence for God, or whoever/whatever created existence, to exist in.
As for the end of existence, mass and energy must be conserved. There would be no way to destroy the energy and mass from the objects already in the universe. Therefore existence must continue, since mass and energy cannot be destroyed and the fact that they need a framework to exist in. |
In the case of death by entropy, all of the energy and matter of the universe will be distributed evenly across a plane that is infinite in size. The only way that we can describe this state is timeless nonexistence. The example of your rock is meaningless. If all of the matter in your rock could be said to exist evenly across a plane of infinite size, the rock would not be observable and it could be said to not exist. In addition, time is relative - it is a tool to measure change. if nothing ever changes anywhere (as it would in a system that has reached an absolute state of entropy) time can be said to be stopped. Both time and existence require some sort of uneven distribution of energy and matter to mean anything; as soon as all matter and energy are completely dispersed they are both meaningless concepts.
In the case of death by collapse, on the other hand, we will pass into the singularity and all methods of explaining time and existence are useless.