[Branaddar]

I notice a lot of people saying "community" in one form or another. I don't think that's something we'll ever get back, regardless of the game or the expansions available in it.

Old school MMOing is dead. The once-niche game market has become one of the biggest and attracted millions of players that wouldn't have played before.

Yeah, we always had our share of asshats and casual players and all that, but at least they tended to be people that at some basic level had a sense of a community in their actions.

These days, nobody "cares." "It's just a game" gets thrown around, or "I don't care what you think, I don't know you IRL" and the like. I sound like an MMO addict decrying those points, but I think they're at the core of developing a quality community in an online game.

I don't think we'll ever go back to how we remember the "old days" in any MMO new or old.

At best, we'd need another hard community-driven game to almost force it on people. It'll weed out the anti-social types who give up after a few months. Vanguard had the right idea, just a shame it got pushed out the door before it was finished properly.