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Originally Posted by Daldolma
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Oh, and re: the European players, you're clearly not getting it. Daytime repops are European prime time. I don't know why you have this delusion that every no variance mob would be spawning US primetime and hanging Europe out to dry. It would depend entirely on when the original server repop was. Given recent server history, it seems more likely that raid mobs would start popping in European prime time and slowly drift toward US prime time with each new pop. Just randomize the time at which each server repop/simulated patch takes place. There will be weeks where European players have an enormous advantage, and weeks where all the pops come in US prime time. Just like classic.
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...What?? Every patch for the past year has been between 7PM and 11PM EST as far as I can recall, which is way too late for most European players. If you took away variance entirely, then all mobs would die within a 30 minute time frame, and next week they'd respawn only slightly later. If your suggestion is to have random simulated patch days then you'll have the opposite problem since for several weeks straight, mobs will only spawn early in the morning for westerners. The time of day that mobs spawn one week shouldn't determine when they spawn the next week on an international server.
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Originally Posted by Daldolma
Sounds awfully similar to when people would say "do you really think they're going to track for 96 hours straight?" The answer is yes. They'll track every mob and keep 40+ online all day on the one day that repops are due. They're not going to just walk away and say aw, shucks. They'll sell a few more Trak BPs, buy a few more tracker accounts, and be as good to go as ever.
But you're right. Guilds would have the option of sitting in a zone while a mob is in window and hoping he spawns. That's otherwise known as poop-socking, and you'd probably be doing it with 2 or 3 other guilds depending on your target. But yeah, if that's what you want, that would be an option available to you. That was the entire reason variance was added in the first place, though -- to eliminate that kind of behavior.
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The problem is that currently, they have a few people who are able to track for unreasonably long stretches of time. If the windows were shortened, they'd need multiple people able to track for smaller stretches of time. Even if they could track every mob, smaller guilds would probably camp near their priority mobs*, or just outrace them when more than one mob spawns at a time. What if Trak or some VP mob is in window during a day when everything else is popping? Do you think TMO and BDA are going to risk giving the other guild a free shot at Trak if they mobilize for some low-priority target like Inny? Another huge difference is that if you lose a mob that you tracked under the new system, you don't lose 4 days of your life for nothing, and you still have a reasonable idea of when the TOD was if a mob spawns when your guild was asleep.
Basically what will happen is this: TMO will lose mobs because they can't be everywhere at once. The current system gives them more security because if they go for a mob, the chance of another one spawning at the same time is extremely low, and they keep track of all the TOD's so that if another mob is in window, they don't lose a huge part of their raid force trying to track it. If 10 other mobs are in window, are you going to spare 10 of your raiders just to track them? I doubt it.
*I'm not ashamed about poopsocking for a few hours if the alternative is to poopsock it for several days. Also, 2-3 guilds poopsocking one mob is extremely unlikely given that there are over a dozen raid mobs and less than a dozen raid guilds.
edit: also, I think that small guilds *can* beat TMO to certain targets, and they just need to be willing to track. Currently I don't see how any casual player would be willing to track because it is such a colossal time investment.