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Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I knew he wasn't enchanter charmable and I know that he should death touch [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.].

and knowing is half the battle?

how about some REAL evidence?

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I regret to inform you that outside from the word of the guild who spearheaded this raid and the Everlore data, there is nothing else. We dove through many screen shots and cannot in fact find any pictures of Sirran beating down the raid NPCs (being charmable) NOR can we find any of him shouting an NPC's or player's name.

So, because you cant find evidence of him beating down mobs that makes him non-charmable?
You cant find evidence of him shouting an NPC's name or a player's name that means he does?

LET ME STATE THAT AGAIN

YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE showing him charmable
YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE of him DTing

this somehow means he ISN'T charmable, and DOES DT? - This is called a "False Analogy"

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I believe I have solved the puzzle. Briefly charmable by bards and does death touch!

WAIT!!!! There's some evidence that Sirran must have been charmed because they attacked each other! Oh yeah, it takes two to tango, Did you consider that perhaps it was the Key Master who was charmed? By your logic above, if the situation here is that the Key Master was the one charmed, then Sirran must also be charmable!

We dont know which was charmed now do we? Besides that fact, The Key Master does the death touch, how does that mean that Sirran DTs? This is both a "False Analogy" as well as a "Hasty Generalization"

The context to the FOH quote was someone asking if Sirran had ever been killed, and had nothing to do with him being charmed, or the Key Master being the one charmed to kill him.

You're also drawing from this statement that it was because someone BARD charmed him and sent him against the Key Master. There is no evidence that it was a bard that charmed him, or if it was an enchanter.

The best conclusion we can draw from the statement is that the two faught, and most likely somebody charmed ONE of them or he and the key master would not have fought each other in the first place.

I make this statement not as a fallacy, but by evidence of them never attacking each other when one spawns next to the other. OH WAIT>>> I DONT HAVE EVIDENCE THAT THEY DONT ATTACK EACH OTHER>>> THEREFORE THEY MUST!!!

Quit with the anecdotal evidence and provide REAL EVIDENCE. Quit with the "I know it" and provide PROOF. Better still, quit with the fallacies. If you don't know a lot about fallacies, look them up, they're actually quite interesting to read about. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your thread about Sirran started with:

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This NPC should not be charmable due to very very high spell resists.

followed with:

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I played EQ Classic and know fully well everything I just posted needs to be addressed. Please explain to me why you think any of what I posted is wrong other than it may remove the ability to exploit PvE on these servers.
Thanks!

Rogean's own words:
http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...52&postcount=1

"Please be as specific as possible when making a bug report. Include NPC names, zone, links to the quest & as much detail as you can."

Your recollections are not details. Your "knowing full well" is not evidence.

I'm not saying that Sirran was or was not charmable. I'm not saying that he did or did not DT, but you're making statements of FACT from lack of evidence.

And this, is why I agree with Xanthias that you are an idiot.