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Old 06-04-2010, 12:47 PM
Cyrano Cyrano is offline
The Protector of Sunder


Join Date: Feb 2010
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I think there is a right/wrong choice here, don't ask your guildies to lie over a mob. This is the same group of leadership that told Secrets we wiped to the bugged Vox 3 times after they called 30 minutes. Lucky for us we had Secrets in vent trying to help us problem solve getting Vox out of the wall and the lie was caught immediately. This led to their raid leader coming into our vent to meet with Xzerion/Secrets where he was called out on it and backed off so we could get a fair shot once she was out of the wall.

Or how about the raid where Xzerion and Durison were in tells and the 30 minutes was established on CT months ago only to have Durison pretend the conversation never took place and say he wasn't the raid leader so they could claim our 30 minutes was invalid once they took too long to pull? This was the same raid where they charmed the last mob in Fear then broke it to claim "The zone isn't clear!" after the 30 minutes was agreed upon. Do you still wonder why many of us take screen shots when in tells with FB/DA?

I have no qualms about why there is bad blood here. I've never seen my guild be anything but fair to these guys only to repeatedly hear them flat out lie to GMs, on forums, and to our faces. I've seen them train us, attempt to KS (Transcendence and Divintiy can both confirm), and then train themselves only to use that as ammo that we somehow did it.

At the same time, I won't pretend our history has been squeeky clean. I already admitted my disdain at the way the situation with Remedy was handled months ago but I have yet to see that occur a second time.