The people who never accomplished pve here, or on live are the ones who claim its so trivial. If you don't like pve, thats one thing, but please don't make the rest of us laugh (or do) mocking the pve that you've never been able to accomplish (or if you did, it was in some zerg guild). Kill Nagafen with 12 people. Kill noble djorn with 18. Kill trakanon with 27... then get back to me. Better yet, do something worthwhile in pvp, then maybe someone will take you seriously when you mock pve.
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