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Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception
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Oh, no no no. Don't get all "How is this so hard for you to understand?" with me.
YOU are the one who said that TMO would raid JUST because they want to block everyone else from raiding. I questioned that a couple of times because it sounded like little more than a vengeful comment from someone who's on the losing end of things.
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I know you want to focus on "just", but let me highlight the true emphasis of the relevant post:
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Originally Posted by falkun
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I'm not a member, but in my experience raiding against them, they'd do it just for the lolz of denying the kill to others. They want the competition, it keeps them sharp and focused. Gives them the "thrill of the hunt." But they never said anything about "fair" or "even" competition.
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Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception
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And now you are switching tunes to "I raid cause it's fun in and of itself" and acting like I'm dense for not understanding that raiding sans pixels/spite can be fun, when that is actually just redirecting the conversation to something else after you decided you don't want to claim to know what is on TMO's collective minds anymore.
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I apparently need to remind you that Everquest is a game. I would hope anyone playing it, TMO, myself, yourself, and R. A. Salvatore, are all playing it for fun, "sans pixels and spite." If the only reason I logged on was to train TMO, I'd walk away from the game. I also don't know whats on TMO's collective minds, I prefaced every post stating I was not a member. But, in my experience raiding against them, and believing some of the things their members post (even Alarti for whatever that's worth), I believe they don't raid for pixels. As one of their members stated, the pixels are a byproduct of their efforts.
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Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception
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PLUS you're throwing more vengeful comments at TMO even though there is no place in this immediate discussion for accusations of rule lawyering.
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Yup, I've added extra remarks that are vitriolic in nature and do not forward the OP. Pot > kettle > black.
By the way, when I hit "quote" for your latest post, you had apparently edited this out but it was recovered by the server for me to read:
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Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception
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Just admit that you're blinded by your hatred for TMO and that they aren't actually out to get you (well except that they might actually be out to get YOU), but that they raid for the same reasons everyone else does: raiding, winning at raiding, and getting loot from raiding. They just seem to be more interested in those 3 things than anyone else on the server, so they end up with the vast majority of the raiding, wins, and loot.
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I honestly don't care if you believe me one way or the other, but there are many people who still play on this server, and quite a few that have left, that have a more seething fury against TMO than I. If I had a blind hatred for TMO, do you think I'd post this:
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Originally Posted by falkun
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No, TMO is a guild founded on server domination. They have acquired the pixels and endless stream of characters that elevates the entry requirements into the raid scene arena. They're like the Yankees, except their salary cap is even higher than that of the Yankee's and their competition is all sitting around the $100mil mark.
Honestly, they've busted their collective asses and now they are sitting high atop the mountain with their laurels. They expect, arguably rightfully so, for any competition to usurp them as they usurped their predecessors. However, the fortress they've built is larger than the fortress they defeated, which is an honest defense technique, but makes their claims for competition hollow.
My only gripe is with the "new guard" of TMO, who didn't put in the collective work that the old guard did and yet still feels the right to look down upon the rest of the server. Both parties know who they are.
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Personally, it sounds like I have respect for the old guard of TMO. If you don't see it that way, that is your prerogative.