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Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't see much sense in any of what you're posting funnily. You're acting as if boxing would be healthy for the server... while those that don't box have to put up with either soloing or converting to boxing. What's one of live's downfalls for a lot of people? Mercs, I hated the mercs and the anti-social playstyles that developed because of them. I'd say it killed the community spirit of the servers in fact.

If you didn't understand the argument I was making, just say so. No need to try and refute the argument with irrelevant counterarguments. You still don't seem to understand, so I'll try to rephrase it. What I'm saying is that the 2 boxers (who don't group) you see running around on servers that allow it are likely the same people who solo on P99. Some people like being self sufficient. Allowing 2 boxing doesn't suddenly turn someone who likes to group and interact with people into someone who likes to do things on their own.

It wasn't until Kunark that 2-boxing really started to take off. I noticed the difference immediately, token tank running through a zone with cleric on auto-follow. All very handy for a group situation, except tells weren't replied to and the guy pulling the strings wanted to solo. Sure, play your way... but bear in mind a bunch of other classes would have loved to have joined in rather than struggle.

Again, does it really bother someone more to see a 2 boxer grinding xp and not allowing them to join vs. a soloer grinding xp and not allowing them to join? I'd think not, as the result is the same.

The server has worked quite well, in that if there's a shortage of a class there tends to be a shift towards people starting alts? Tanks, clerics, the works. Less LFG time is always a bonus right? Except we all know that a tank and cleric is fairly slow going without any dps...so people will group. That's what the old era was about, grouping. That's what people arguably come to this server to do... meet people, group up, make friends and enjoy the experience over again.

That's your experience. I've not had good luck in finding decent groups back when I was grinding to 60. Too many times they'd want the shaman to handle buffs, slows, and heals since they couldn't find an enc or cleric. A boxed enc just for buffs would have been amazing in those situations, and probably would have held some groups together when instead they broke apart.

Allow boxing, and everyone turns anti-social, class options are no longer realistic options unless you too are boxing. You pretend like mass boxing will still result in a healthy proportion of all classes being played.

This is just plain bizarre. People don't change who they are based on how many everquest characters they play. If they like grouping, they'll probably continue to group whether they're playing 1 or 2 characters. And it's not like on a boxing server, suddenly have 90% of the population being monks and shaman.

I'd argue the opposite. Most newcomers who are playing solo (ie, not with the "wife", "brother" etc) will not head to a boxing server... because there's not much chance of levelling along with a boxer unless they know him/her already. Therefore your pool of boxing potential players is limited to those who are here already, and many of those (though not all) won't want to start at Day 0 and level characters from the beginning without twinked gear.

If I was playing solo, I'd certainly go to a boxing server over a non boxing server. It allows you to enjoy more of the content. What makes you think boxers don't ever group together? Back on live, very early I met another person who boxed a war/enc and I boxed a war/cler. Not the most efficient group, but we grouped together. And what exactly is your argument regarding twinked gear here? That whole last sentence is rather incoherent.