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Originally Posted by Reikerz
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This thread's about Velious. You're a nobody shaman who's played on P99 Kunark for a couple months and bragging about soloing HS trash. Congratulations. I'm talking from experience of playing a shaman in a high end raid guild throughout Velious (twice - original/classic and Progession 1.0).
Once again, the things you're saying aren't incorrect per se but they're irrelevant. Yes, if you play a non-ogre you can time things around bash. You're not teaching me some sort of lost nugget of shamanic knowledge here. It also doesn't make your point. It reinforces the fact that ogres are better because they don't have to worry about that bullshit.
When you're working your way up and soloing mobs like Mazi who hit for 200+, AE and dispel, you have way too much to worry about to plan out spell timings around a bash timer. When you're timing your torpor around AE dispels while keeping dots / debuffs online amidst high resist rates, you'll begin to realize the advantages that ogres have when you have very tiny windows to land specific spells. Once you work up to Lodizal/Stomples... forget it.
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What class do you play here? I'd love to see you solo HS south with a shaman. With all of your vast knowledge, I'm sure it would not be a problem. Of course, anyone who has been to HS south here knows it's not just "HS trash". Breaking a camp there is probably the toughest thing I can do currently, and I put it well above things like soloing Drusella, which is probably the closest you can get to WW dragons at this point.
I love how your argument morphed from:
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Originally Posted by Reikerz
it's impossible to time your spells around bash.
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Yes, if you play a non-ogre you can time things around bash. You're not teaching me some sort of lost nugget of shamanic knowledge here.
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It seems you have gained that lost nugget of shamanic knowledge sometime in the last few hours. So now that you admit I'm right about being able to time around bash, surely you must admit that timing around bash and having extra regen is better than not getting stunned by bash with no regen.
I'll admit that if you don't have the multitasking ability to keep track of bashes on top of the other things you have to watch, you should probably play ogre. But troll/iksar offers you the possibility of being more effective, though it requires more work.