[Atmas]

Square, to use your own word "your biggest failure" is that you can't post in this thread objectively. It is a shame, as others have already pointed out, that you cannot express your conflicting opinions without making underhanded comments. No where in my post did I mention that EQ or WoW is a better game because of their mechanics. I could easily make a post mirroring yours that your lack of understanding the complexity of EQ is reflective of your lack of play.

In either case I made post specifically stating that you can't make a blanket statement about all encounters in the games. I also tried to place emphasis on the the difference between difficulty of actions required and time required.

Timesinks are not complex, they are more difficult, saying they are not is illogical. Running a mile is not any more complex than running half a mile really (please don't jump on some stupid point about pacing here) it is more difficult because it requires more resources. Some people seem to be upset by this because it does not include a quality increase and therefore is inferior. If you feel that way fine, but don't try to argue timesinks don't make things more difficult.

For the record I actually had a lot of fun with both games when I played them. Both of them have gone in directions I am not super found of today but I still consider them great experiences.