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Originally Posted by jilena
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I find all this shit hilarious. I have grouped with people from just about every guild on this server on my cleric and my necro. I know nice people in DA, I know nice people in IB, I know nice people in Divinity, I know nice people in Trans, I know nice people in GC. And I have met people in every single one of these guilds who give off the impression that they would lie, cheat, exploit, train, ks, leapfrog, rape their mothers, spit on retarded kids, and probably sleep with those they loved knowing they had AIDS, if they thought it would let them collect more ph4tz.
I have read post after post of DA bashing the shit out of IB druids and rangers for sitting in zones waiting for mobs to spawn telling them how they have no lives and need to seek help. Yet now both of these guilds are willingly sitting large numbers of members in zones round the clock to call "dibs" on virtual loots. And it's suddenly okay and wonderful?
Here is what I gather is the reality: IB and DA are both okay with sacrificing the RL and in game time of their members to an extremely excessive degree to win at looting. In this I see both guilds as being equal. You guys can call each other douchebags and losers all you want but just about every insult flung at the opposing side could just as easily find a place where it originated. And yes I know there are special cases on both sides who exemplify all that there is to being a complete piece of shit.
That said, I think what you see here is the result of the fact that IB did it first, IB did it better, and IB has been doing it for a lot longer. The built up resentment for all things IB is lending the bullshit spewed by DA a degree of credibility it doesn't deserve. DA meets or exceeds the level of douchebaggery enacted by IB in every way possible and no matter how much either side spins it, neither one of you is the "good guy".
This doesn't mean I don't love all of you for providing me this drama to read when I am bored at work or looking for something to do while auctioning! Thank you ever so much for that!
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Jilena I think the prime difference is that IB tries to do it within the rules and fairly. DA/FB, in my experience, will employ any tactic to win including lying, training, leapfrogging, and attempting to KS.
Since I've been a member of IB, there has been one instance I feel we made the wrong choice and that involved Maestro and Remedy. To this day I regret that we didn't communicate our intentions regardless of our reasons for doing so which were misdirected at best.
On the other hand, I can't count the times I've seen DA/FB as a whole and as individuals purposely mislead players and GMs alike, train raids and groups, and blatantly try to leapfrog multiple guilds.
While you're right that there isn't a "good guy" in this race, the attitudes and demeanor of many DA/FB posters on these forums speak volumes for the truly massive gap between us in terms of maturity.
As you said, the horror stories of IB destroying this server come almost 100% from the mouth of DA/FB members. Again, I'm not pretending we haven't had our dark moments, but surely you recognize a difference in attitude and demeanor between the two parties