Flowers has been pretty active lately and altho their list not be cut short, they have been putting work in pvp-wise. I would love to see 4-5 guilds pop up but they wont pop up by themselves. VV was a long shot but hardwork by everyone in the guild has gotten it pretty far. We are on the verge of farming raid plane trash. I mean this guild was recruited during the lowest oopulation point of the server. Now that its picking up, should be alot easier.
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