When I say grief, I don't mean generic pvp, or killing a player.
Grief is when theres so much pvp and ganking going on, you can't accomplish anything else or experience the game. I realize a lot of people look at red like its the anti-blue, but thats not what I came here for. I didn't play blue because it didn't have pvp. That doesn't mean when I come to a pvp server, I don't want to enjoy pve.
PvP makes PvE fun. PvP is not the end all. Catering heavily to those who just want to PvP will only serve to take away from the classic EQ experience.
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