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Originally Posted by klant
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Well I am still somewhat active on red99, and I can tell you the pvp is not great. There are only a few active's that are not in Nihilum, and we spend our time running aruond looking for said Nihilum. when we find them the same thing happens that has happened from the start; gate, camp, or zone dance untill we are out numbered.
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Vae Victus has had more online on red than Nihilum for the last few days, and they aren't the first guild to outnumber us. Nihilum has raided with the bare minimum it takes to kill dragons for about the last 4-5 months (seldom more than 20). Several other guilds that had numbers at or above our own at various times quit on their own accord, when they lost in pvp, or failed to accomplish what Nihilum accomplished when they had equal or greater numbers. No one held a gun to their heads.
Theres just no point in playing if you have nothing to fight over. If you can't even kill Nagafen in classic, you failed as a guild.
Not sure the point of that screenshot, as it only serves to prove you don't get it. Nihilum won because everyone else did nothing but soil their names and their guilds reputation. Then when we were successful because we tried to treat the average player with decency (even our enemies), people come back and blame server problems on us for beating the other guilds and our all around success.
People should learn from that. EQ pvp, contrary to popular belief, is not counterstrike with swords. Its Everquest with options. Its reputation and politics. Its actually quite "sandbox" in its pvp form, for a genre later called "themepark". Sandbox in that, you have the option in EQ of being a pk, an anti, a raider or a casual. You can play for pve, pvp, or both. You can help form guilds and alliances, or you can play as an entrepreneur (provided the pop). PVP is not the end game in EQ, even on a pvp server, and it never was on live, esp RZ. Content is the end game in EQ (with options!). RZ had pks, but the majority of the server, even the people who won the BotB and pvped every day, would be hardcore "bluebies" by todays retarded standards. . PvP is a way of settling who earns the rights to pve. But its completely up to you the way you play. A group of players doesn't "hurt the server" because they win. Its the losers that have done far more damage in and out of game than anyone else.